buyaka350

http://www.winnipegmercedesbenz.ca/c...bc3e4106c4.htm

I'm thinking of buying this. Any recommendations? Warnings?

It's a Canadian car so we get robbed on prices.

Is buying a 2009 a good idea? I heard it had stiff suspension. I drive to work in traffic everyday. But will have plenty of opportunity to have fun.

Can you guys give me actual prices. I used search, read all of the, confusing, and no $ answers.

Oil Change -$300ish? How often?
2 Rear Tires - $1200ish?
Brake job - When? Cost?

Any other unexpected or large costs. I have warranty from MB extended. I also can handle 1,000 spike once in a while, but a 5-6000 unexpected spike would hurt me soul.

Thanks for the info.

JCAMG63

- I regret not getting the AMG PP
- Service A at MB $300 CDN, oil change only half the price
- Rear tires 255/35/18 Contis from Discount Tire $640 CDN incl duties/taxes/shipping to my doorstep
- 47K seems high for year and high Kms, but I don't know about Winnipeg market

abcut973

I think price is a bit high for an 09 with 35000 mls. In the US you could find some for 40k$ or even less depending on mileage.
Since it's a canadian car it is slightly more optioned than a US one = parktronic, electric folding mirrors. This car has the PP but you have to check if it has the LSD too.
It says certified but for how long is the warranty? As a CPO it should come with new tires and brakes. So you should be OK.
Usually on an 09 you look for the head bolt issue which is why it's always good to have an extended warranty.

Oil change is around 200$ every 6 months i would suggest or 5-6k mls.
Rear tires are more around 750$ for both ,depending on how you drive the car they could last >10k mls or just 5k mls. Depends on the brand too.

I hope this will help you decide. If it's the first car you are seeing i would recommend to take your time. there are plenty of C63 out there

Good luck

buyaka350

It is CPO at 6years or 120,000kkm
(I drive about 18,000/year)

I can negotiate the price down from 47,000 to probably 45,000 at the least. I'd then finance with 8k down.

I'm fairly young man, and still have lots of time to save for a house, I also don't want to regret having a car that's costing me 5,000 here or there randomly.

It costs alot to import US to CAN. As well they don't always honor the warranties even if they say they will. If the part is to expensive, they have the right to refuse it. Messed up right? Ya. lol

I found this -> http://www.usautoimport.ca/index-3b.php
Not sure how accurate it is.

Fung63

hi buyaka,

check your mailbox, I replied to your pm.

also, CPO warranty is pretty garbage. if you want true peace of mind, you'll be getting ELW

dc5itr888

2009= Potential Headbolt issue but again given a recent post by someone early 2011 are also potential headbolt issues with motor

For my case the price was right so I got a 2009 with a aftermarket warranty with PP.

Good Luck on your search

caddison

The ad claims that the car has the PP, but doesn't have red calipers. You should get the VIN ran to make sure that it was equipped as such. Look for the P30 option code. Also, remember that the P30 PP isn't a horsepower bump; it's a brake and suspension upgrade. The other thing I'd keep in mind is that the 2009 interior is quite different from the 2013 C that you're driving now.

604 C63

I have an 09 P30 in Vancouver. It does not have red callipers. I am 99% certain that here in Canada the P30 always consisted of:

1) Brake upgrade.
2) Firmer suspension.
3) LSD (Ltd slip dif)
4) Alcantara sections on the steering wheel.

In 2010 the Performance Pack is known as a P31. This swaps out the LSD for the forged internals and a 30hp bump. LSD was available separately as an option.

I have yet to see a P30 that didnt have the Alcantara on the wheel, so while I wouldnt take that as proof it does provide some sort of jumping off point.

A word to the wise: That brake upgrade is good if you track it, but getting a brake job done through the dealer is hella expensive. Over 4k. Personally, I got the 2 piece kit from Tal at ACG and Porterfield RS4 pads. Lighter and MUCH cheaper. Brakes aren't a warranty item, but the upside of that is MB can't ***** about who you have do them. Get your parts from the States and do em yourself, or if you're not comfortable with that get a non-stealership mechanic to do it.

It is crazy simple tho.

buyaka350

So parts and labour all in how much does it cost this way?

buyaka350

These are the 3 other cars available in my area, my price range.

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Mercedes-...howcpo=ShowCPO

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Mercedes-...howcpo=ShowCPO

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Mercedes-...howcpo=ShowCPO

and the black one in OP. Thoughts? Thnx guys

604 C63

Front 2 piece rotors: $1100
Rear rotors: $350 I think
Porterfields: $400
Wear sensors $60

Labour: My pizza cost me $12 and a grande ice americano was $3.50. Like I said....stupid easy. I can talk ya through it on the phone practically.

Couple of notes about the prices. First of all, I had them shipped to a US address. No idea what Canadian deliver/duty/GST would run.

Re the front rotors: thats for the pair - MB it will cost you that each.
Lots of benefits to these as they are 5lbs lighter each, a true two piece with a reusable hat so
time you can just buy the discs for about $700 and these are actually directional in terms of their venting unlike the factory. You will see a left and a right to order on the MBs but they are identical and the vanes go the same way.

Re the rear rotors. On a P30 they are the same as a non P30. Its just the fronts that are upgraded. HOWEVER, you can buy the same two piece for the back for another $1000 (650 extra).

Re pads. MBs are cheaper, and they are actually a pretty decent pad, with a decent
power/wear/dust/noise factor. I like the carbon kevlar Porterfields tho. Seem to be doing the job very nicely. More power, less dust/noise. Still too early to comment on wear.

Hope this helps. Oh, and I think to have MB in Canada do this job its $5400.

604 C63

Im gonna say the original car or the 2010 non P30. Its 5k cheaper and has 30000 fewer kms on it. At that stage of life those are a lot of kms and I gotta think a 2010 P31 with 72000 kms on it has prolly been driven hard.

Save the 5k. Get the fresher one. Spend $800 on a quality tune that will give 75+ hp and drop another 1000 on an LSD so you can hook that power up. Now your 3 grand ahead and have 30,000 fewer kms and an LSD (which the P31 doesnt have).

Im gonna break for coffee and a smoke now, and Ill be back after the break with advice for the heartbroken amongst us and a couple of good bbq tips. All that and more - coming right up! In the meantime, let me leave you with a topic. The Civil War was neither civil nor a war. Discuss.

ShaneN.

we DO get robbed on prices but right now i'm not finding any cars to be cheaper in the states right now, especially not with the 4k green levy on top of 12% tax to bring it across. i've been looking at cts-v's, c63s and srt8 cherokees and for the first time in a while i'm actually seeing them the same price or cheaper in Canada. Same with c6 z06's. Which certainly hasn't been the case in ages. But that's neither here nor there lol. Anyways, I've comparable one's in BC for bang on 40k asking price.

buyaka350

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Mercedes-...howcpo=ShowCPO

so this one?

Buddy in my Private Message told me a good point. It is near its 50-60k service mark which costs $500 apparently, I should have them do it.

When you say get the LSD and Tune. Can you link me too both of these? And what's it cost to install? Does the Tune screw my warranty? As it stands I think the 2010 would have approx 1 year left.

Fung63

If perf package is not a must have. def go for a 2010 as it got a few updates over the 2009

A flashed tune will not affect your warranty. check out the guys at eurocharged. they will explain it all to you

buyaka350

It's between these 3 cars. You guys tell me what you recommend for a young bachelor that can splurge but not go overboard. I don't want to be car broke. A payment of around 700/month and yearly car expenses (not including gas) of $2,000/a is where I want to be. Insurance/Warranty plays a factor as well.

2010 C63
http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Mercedes-...howcpo=ShowCPO

2012 - New - BMW 335is
http://crm.bmw.ca/en-CA/PreOwned/Sea...11#details-top

2010 Mercedes Benz E63 Sedan
http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Mercedes-...howcpo=ShowCPO

Honestly I love all 3 for different reasons. I know the 335is would be the most cost effective. The c63 the fastest. And the e63 a major head turner and 'grown man' car.

I feel I've worked very hard 7days a week for 10 years, that I deserve to have a nice car now after sacrificing my e46 for an Acura for the last 4 years.

buyaka350

Also you guys keep mentioning the extra brakes performance package and LSD. Am I to assume that these are for adding performance? If I stick with whats on that 2010, will I be at risk of something? I'm sure I'd be more than thrilled with the way it comes.. yes/no ? I'm not a track guy, just an everyday guy that goes to work and wants a reason to get up 5mins earlier before my morning drive (to stare at the car of course heh).

caddison

Your $2000 budget for annual expenses is going to run right up to the limit on the C63. Plan on getting 8-12k miles out of a set of tires, and that's going to run $1000-$1200 per set. Add on your annual service, and you're starting to reach toward that upper limit. That's assuming that nothing non-warranty goes wrong.

I'd also advise you to at least consider the gas mileage. I don't know what your commute looks like, but the BMW is rated at over 30MPG highway, whereas the C63 will get 20, before any mods. Also, a lot of people are getting near-C63 performance out of a tuned 335.

Is leasing the car an option? I don't know about up there, but in my area BMW is advertising 335 leases for $400/mo.

buyaka350

A new 335is coupe white on red with navi and dct is 69,000 here. My lease payment would be 800-1,000 dollars.

I agree that a 335is tuned moderately can get me c63 performance. This c63 happens to be listed at 44,000 (2,300 under black book). I know I can get them down to 40,000. Purchase the extra warranty for 3,000. No mods needed and have a payment of around 680/m from the bank, even lower if I balloon finance.

buyaka350

ps: You can't lease a used car (to my knowledge) from the dealership (which is where I feel comfortable buying)

caddison

Ouch, that kind of pricing is rough.

Anyhow, it sounds like you've done your research and know what you can afford. As long as you know what you're in for (and I believe you do), I'd pull the trigger on the C or the E. They have passed the sharpest part of the depreciation curve, so you won't take a huge bath on them if/when you trade it in later. Good luck.

ZephyrAMG

I don't even know how anyone can focus on what the OP even typed while reading his posts....

buyaka350

EDIT: Misjudged someones post. Public apologies. He just likes ***.

ZephyrAMG

I'm talking about your avatar pic...that's all I'm looking at

buyaka350

Ok guys, so I took the 2010 pallidum grey c63 with 45,000 km out today for a test drive.

He want's 44,000. I'd finance it over 8 years at 560/month with 8,000 down. Then trade it in 2-3 years for a new one. (Don't know if this is the best route, but I want my payments below 600/month).

The test drive - The car is an animal. Delayed shifting in normal mode while cruising. Is that normal? Interior of car is mint, but used (minor scratches etc). The exterior is nice. The wheels have curb rash on some. The rear tires are at 20% life, I said I want new tires or no deal. He agreed. The car has yet to be reconditioned, etc.

The warranty ends Feb 2014. Extended from MB will be 3,000ish. This is my biggest concern.

I really liked the car though, it purrs like a grizzly bear, but also is quite nice to cruise in traffic. It almost seemed as if it was upset that I was cruising though. This thing wants to be driven!!!

I just found a buyer for my current car so I'm ready to purchase. Any advice on how to set it up for financing, future trade in, when to do it, etc would be very helpful. I'm definitely naive in this area. The sales rep is the actual owner of the car and he claims that if I'm paying 600/month for 2 years, I will have paid off 15,000 of the 44,000 and owe approx 30,000 in 2 years which I will be able to get for the car with 90,000km on it. What do you guys think?