matte4life

Car is absolutely gorgeous. The seller claims that this is 1 of 4 brought to the USA.

http://www.globalautosports.com/car/...upe-87448.html

Speechless.

_timothy

theyre all 1 of 4 in terms of color, its just a BS pitch to try to jack up the price.

8k miles, no aero package, cracked passenger side tail light, asking more than MSRP. kthxbai

khmergod

Wow come on. At least fix the tail before sale. /facepalm

olszowa12

It's a light reflection guys.

_timothy

don't think so. look at the pic of the right rear side from further back. the same spider web is still there. if it were a reflection the angle change would have shown it accordingly.

Vic55

its cracked, its one of the members here and its actually at Eurocar in the Orange County.

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jrcart

I can assure you there were more than 4 built in that color. The simple fact that it is not an aero package car makes it far less desirable and makes the asking price way off base. Aero package & track package cars are currently fetching MSRP or higher on the used market, non-aero package cars are selling for under MSRP...if they sell at all. A guy I know just picked up a matte black non-aero package car with 2800 miles for under $100k at dealer in Chicago about a month or so ago. Watch how long this one sits around at that price, kinda like the one in FL that has been listed for $120k for the past 3-4 months lol. Non-Aero BS values will take an even bigger hit once the 507's hit the market.

rage2

Doubt the 507's will even affect pricing at all. The US got shafted on the base cars (compared to Canada) with no CF or Perf Media, and the base cars are all selling under MSRP right now.

magic.kid

CBS without the track pack will take a hit once 507 hits the streets. People considering CBS for dd will consider the 507. Even in Canada they have sold this year for under 100 used will less mileage than this one. Still a great car and not an investment so some depreciation is to b expected.

neoprufrok

Agree with Jim on this... the track pack/aero pack cars will keep their prices high until the next CBS comes out. Seems like the non aero/track pack cars are going for far less. I love my CBS and plan to keep it forever (and at some point mod the **** out of it) but it has about 6k miles and already I've gotten a handful of offers to take it off my hands from high end used car dealers.

But once the 507 comes out... things will definitely change for the non aero/track which is a little disappointing on MBUSAs part... but like Jim, I don't really care all that much. I love the car and that's all that matters.

jrcart

How do you figure the 507's will not affect non aero pkg, base equiped C BS's? The 507 can be orderd with LSD, comes standard with P31, can be ordred with matte paint, can be ordered with CF trim, can be ordered with multi-media pkg and comes with BS hood for $25k less than a base BS. The only thing lacking on the 507 is a wide body and a dif cooler. Trust me, for the money people will buy a new 507 coupe vs a used base BS, I know I would.

rage2

Come on, the 507 is a P31 car with a BS hood. Even a base BS will out handle, and out track the crap out of a 507 with the suspension, wider track, wider wheels/tires, additional cooling. Compare a 507 to a base BS is just silly. They're much different cars.

As for pricing, I'm just guessing. You might be right, the average buyer might think the 507 and a base BS are the same cars. They might just buy a 507 and slap on a BS wing too and pass on the aero cars for the same reason. The people that know about the BS are the guys that will keep the price up due to the low production numbers (again, just a guess). Not that it really matters, it's not like you or I are selling our cars anytime soon lol.

ZephyrAMG

It's nice to see an unbiased, Un-FAN boy approach to the realistic status of Black Series pricing and sales such as the one by Jrcart. Some people are just a little bothered that a p31 or a 507 may be just as competitive, just as performance stacked as the BS. JRcart is right, the novelty and the uniqueness of the BS may take a hit with the release of the 507. Use common sense. You can only blow smoke up your own rear end for only so long...

What sets apart the BS is the fender package, suspension and a few other tid bits that can be upgraded aftermarket on a 507 or p31...

LuisC55AMG

Here is one w/o the track package, priced at 115.8k

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...Index=10&Log=0

I thought that the price would go down after the 507 release too. Seems that the BS badge is really pricey... :-)

rage2

We'll revisit this topic in a few years and see what happens. Fact is, if it was that easy predicting prices, we'd all be rich flipping cars.

I was just surprised by Jim's comment over buying a 507 over a base BS more than anything. As I've owned both cars, there is no way I would make such a choice. YMMV.

ZephyrAMG

Thats because you're Mr. Rage2, owner of the biggest Canadian Car forum and cool guy. You may be able to drop $130K on a BS because you just want the status symbol or because you can write her off due to a tax shelter according to your line of work. You, Jrcart, and I may be able to be spontaneous enough or elitist enough to do so, but for many people who approach things with a realistic/economical thought process may take the smarter, less elitist approach

It was just good to see someone like Jim who has bought/owned/modded cars up the wazoo take a sound minded/ unbiased approach to BS vs. 507 vs. P31 pricing and worth even though he owns a BS...

neoprufrok

I'm going to have to disagree here a little bit. Having modded a lot of cars... its not easy to get the right balance without the development time that AMG put into the BS cars. Lets face it, for the most part you are right, the 25k difference is pretty much a wider track, completely adjustable suspension, and wider rims/tires. Taken as components, this seems like a no-brainer. If I had all the time in the world to tune and dial the car in, I'd take a 507 and do the same.

But you have to add in the development time and the fact that as a whole, the suspension package works together well... from the factory. That is the rarity. If you look up the CBS lap times at laguna seca...its not bad at all. Can you get there with a modded 507? Yes of course.

Do I hate on the 507? Hell no. I love it. In fact, I'm considering trading in my RS4 for it.. but, to me, its still not a CBS.

noodleman

they couldn't spend $200 to replace the broken taillight before posting it for sale?

rage2

If I wanted to be an elitist d-bag like you portrayed me to be, I wouldn't even be here. I'd be rolling around in a R8 or something. Nor would I be defending the P31 cars as an equal match to the BS in various threads here, because surely that would hurt my elitist ego too. Sure, if I was just a drag racer and not care about handling performance, I'd agree with you and definately pick out a 507 over a BS. But that's not me. Look at how much money Dads spent to get his C63 (RIP) to BS level handling and beyond, there is no way it's more economical. I'm Chinese, cheapness is in my DNA, and if I could've gotten a P31 or 507 to BS levels of performance and dynamics for less money, I'd be right there.

magic.kid

Thought this topic was about this particular car asking too much money not is p31 or 507 same car as CBS. Obviously it's not and u pay for exclusivity which CBS has. But prices will get affected most people don't know why CBS cost so much more or care for that matter

Vic55

Im offended.

ZephyrAMG

Lol....not saying you are a D Bag elitist by any means....sorry if my comments were saying that you were such. I was being sarcastic and metaphorical and that doesn't get translated well in text...

Just saying that the 507 is an alternative to the C63 BS in many ways, especially for those who were unable to get one for whatever reason.
If we look at the numbers (as we all have) and the reality of it, its a bit like AMG offered an "affordable BS" right after the BS (at least IMO).

Prices may change significantly, either by the 507 being released world in significant enough numbers AND by all the new look and technology that AMG will be having out next year. We shall see....

khmergod

Wish they had a similar quality hood that looks like that and would fit pre face lift...

Can't really be a poser when they are throwing that hood on non bs anyway :0)

ZephyrAMG

True^^^^ LOL

rage2

If it makes you feel any better, what I really meant was the R8 V8...

haha all good. And you're right, the 507 is definately an alternative, but just not in my case for my wants and needs. I'm just assuming that all BS buyers have the same mentality as me, hence we see a few cars getting dumped out because the owners had no clue what the car was about. One of the local ones got dumped at a $20k loss only to be resold at $10k over for a $30k spread because the owner didn't find it faster in a straight line compared to a standard C63, and the new owner knew what he was getting into and paid over MSRP.

Guessing long term pricing is just that, a guess. I'm still shocked to see the CLK63 BS moving in the 60's. It's fun to speculate and debate though right?