Originally Posted by jrcart

LMAO, two and a half pages about me...what can I say, I am flattered.

Sorry I would have replied sooner but I was actually out racing my cars in California(novel idea, right?) and partying in Vegas for the weekend


First off I don't think money makes a person any better than the next, I have close friends from all walks of life and never judge...or at least never judge until you do something worth judging. What I can tell you is money can build one hell of a car so if you want to hate me for that then whatever. There are lots of people on this board that know me, have met me, raced with me and partied with me that can tell you what kind of a person I am. I have given away a set of drag radials and wheels to a guy at the track, I gave away an extra unused helmet at the track so a C63 owner that made a trek out to an event could race and at the end of the day I told him he could keep the helmet. I have probably given away $2000 worth of race fuel at track events over the years. I have paid for entire private rentals out of pocket and invited guys to run their cars at them for for free, I could go on and on but no need to pat myself on the back to prove to some of you what type of a guy I am when at the end of the day you are still going to hate anyway.

I might be vocal or opinionated at times but I back up my words or at least try to, that's more than 80% of the keyboard jockeys on these forums will ever do. You know what they say about haters...I personally don't give two *****z about most of you or what you think about me. I figured out a long long time ago that you can never make everyone happy so just make yourself and loved ones happy. From day one on the MB boards people had issues with me and my car, "how could I ruin a rare CLK BS?", "A 63 motor will never be as fast as a 55 motor" "why did you turn a road race car into a drag racer?", A supercharger will never work on a 63", A 63 motor will never get int the 10's" ...I could go on and on with quotes from haters and nay sayers. So while some of you pussies are waiting for your warranty to run out before you cough up $1000 for a tune or waiting for enough people to get on board for a "group buy" on some headers to save $150 or buying chinese cf rear lip spoilers of eBay for your cars me and a small handful of other 63 owners and a few reputable tuners revoluntionized the AMG/MB aftermarket. I must be doing something right because the higher ups at MBUSA and MB and AMG in Germany know who I am and made sure I got one of the first SLS BS's off the production lines when they heard I was interested in one because they wanted to see what could be done to one when taken to the max and they knew I would take it to the max.


....then we have guys like mdgrwl, a cocky noob that thinks he knows everything but actually knows nothing, loves causing trouble, has never posted a photo of his car and has never showed up at any events....things that make you go hmmm????

Bottom line my slowest AMG is faster than 99% of the peoples AMG's commenting this thread, so if you feel the need to flame me that is your right but be prepared for me to fire back, otherwise until you have something for me STFU. THis is a automobile forum in the AMG performance section, if posting my HP in my sig offends you I appologize lol. Little words from little men have no affect on me....Yep more cocky comments from JRCART, what did you all expect me to say?

Originally Posted by clkwork

I call bull****. If 200k isn't a huge sum of money then PayPal it to me now.

Yeah that's what I thought.

/jelly

Originally Posted by clkwork

(on a serious note you guys need to lighten up... why can't we all just appreciate fine automobiles instead of being a dick all the time?)

Originally Posted by rory breaker

This thread could use some more honesty and a little less judging. Of course we care what someone makes. It's human nature. When you see a guy with 1000 hp supercars, you wonder naturally wow that guy has done really well! I wonder how he got here, what's his story, how did he do it? Youre all thinking that, don't act like you're not. I applaud Cart for not holding back his thoughts and being open about it in his own way. Let's face it, when you look deep down where the source of many of the negative comments are coming from...it's not a positive place. Many preach maturity and class here...the mature and classy thing to do would be to not tear an easy target like cart down, it would be to appreciate the positive and ignore what you perceive to be the negative.

Remember the guy who did the insane Weistec build, then vowed to lock the car away in a barn forever because he couldn't care less? Where has that guy been? Great content, now zero entertainment. Cart continues to push the limits and share with us how and why....how much it costs to do so, exactly what he does with his cars...more than most, hes an open book. If that's because it inflates his ego, or because he wants to contribute, who cares? Who are we to judge what one should or shouldn't do in his position, yours, or mine. This is the internet, a discussion forum.....entertainment. And Carts efforts and approach is exactly that, entertainment.

Good for him he makes 200k a week or whatever. Good for him his SLS has red wheels. I appreciate that he shares vs being uptight about it. I reached out to Steve Cannon personally when cart posted up about his troubles getting a CBS, a day later he had progress. Why would I attempt to help? Because the guy contributes to the community and makes sure these boards are a little less serious and a little more fun. Without enthusiasts like him, we would all be yapping about clear turn signals and what tires are best.

That's what it's all about anyway, these are cars...fun. We should all lighten up a bit and not try to tear one another down. Good for him he pushes the envelope and is confident enough to talk openly about it. The same reason you want to see his garage is the same reason you bring him down. Deep down, you do want to know if someone is out there doing these things. You do want to know what they make and how they do it. You do want to know how much he makes and what percentage of his income he spends on cars, how that relates to you, is he happier or sadder because of it. All of those things. It's human nature, period. Maturity and "class" is recognizing this reality and ensuring your curiosities come from a place of nothing but positivity.

Originally Posted by clkwork

(on a serious note you guys need to lighten up... why can't we all just appreciate fine automobiles instead of being a dick all the time?)

Originally Posted by rufferto

So JR.... can we start a signup for a tour of your warehouse?

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Originally Posted by callmiro

You couldn't even get your 9's...

Originally Posted by neoprufrok

As for the FS price... well, I will respectfully disagree with Jim on that, and I am a CBS owner. But already at my price... I've gotten tons of hits... and I am selling almost at what I bought my CBS for a year ago. So the market is still strong for the CBS.

Originally Posted by jrcart

I am a little suprised that they are holding their value as well as they are considering that CLK BS's(MSRP $138,850) were selling for well under $100K when they were a year old. Might have had something to do with the 2008 economy but these C BS's have faired much better than their CLK counterparts.

Originally Posted by jrcart

Thanks man, I met lots of people at SEMA but I specifically remember meeting you and felt bad that I could not chat longer and felt I was kinda short with you. If I recall I was sitting in my car waiting to drive it out of the convention center by the back doors and you walked up to the drivers side door and said hello. Had I not been leaving at that very moment I would have chatted and invited you out with me and the guys from Wesitec that evening. I always enjoy meeting fellow enthusiests, especially guys from MB World and finally getting the chance to meet them.

Please don't take my warranty comment too seriously. It was tongue in cheek because usually half the guys that flame me on these boards are the same guys that are too affraid to risk their warranty or have one of another half dozen excuses why they don't mod their cars but at the same time they are experts on every mod out there(you are not one of those people). I respect the fact not everyone can afford to take a week old $300K SLS and void the warranty and be 100% carefree about it like I did, but I don't appreciate being judged by those people when I chose to do it myself. We all have our reasons for what we do and don't do and I usually respect peoples choices and reasoning.

And for the record for everyone else, the only reason I mentioned that I make $200K every few weeks is because someone infered that anyone that would get offered $200k for their C 63 BS and not take it is an idiot. I was simply stating that to me $200k is not a huge sum of money in the grand scheme of things and definately not worth selling a car I love over. Everything is relative, there are guys out there that $2M is not a huge sum of money.

Originally Posted by rage2

The CLK BS prices were interesting, I followed it closely when it was announced before I figured out how to get one into Canada. When it first came out, not many people knew about the car, and with ~350 cars, there were a lot sitting around. By the end of the first year, dealers were clearing new cars out at $90k, which completely tanked the used market. It was simply supply > demand.

The prices rebounded strongly because of the Porsche guys, believe it or not. They started picking the cars up as their DD and there were tons of favorable reviews. Word of mouth got around, and all of a sudden everyone wanted a CLK BS. By year 2, used cars were over $100k again. Some of the guys I know got lucky and made $20k by buying it new at huge dealer discounts and selling high a year and 10,000 miles later.

The C is holding much better value because everyone knows what the BS cars are about now. Coupled with much lower NA allocations, it's not a surprise that it's nowhere near the rollercoaster ride that the CLK BS had.

Originally Posted by PurpleHeartAMG

Yeah that was me. With how many people that were at SEMA the only way I'd know it was you was if you were in your car. So I'm glad I caught you as the cars were leaving and then I proceeded to stand on a corner outside the convention center and enjoy the show.

How long did it take you to get out of there? I was there for hours but then had to go back to my dads place where I was staying and it looked like the entire section you were it didn't even start to leave.

And no worries on the warranty thing, it wasn't serious. People here just need to lighten up a bit.

Originally Posted by mdgrwl

10's was my goal and I hit it. 4695lbs full race weight - things are pigs.

If wanted to turn it into a dedicated, gutted out, drastic weight reduced drag car, it would of been 9's easy... but that wasnt my goal.

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Originally Posted by jrcart

Why do you disagree with me on the price?? All along I have said that these cars are still fetching a good dollar and aero pkg cars are in higher demand than non-aero cars. It does not suprise me one bit that you are geting close to what you paid for your car over a year ago, In fact I PM'ed you and said that I thought you had yours listed a little low IMO. I am a little suprised that they are holding their value as well as they are considering that CLK BS's(MSRP $138,850) were selling for well under $100K when they were a year old. Might have had something to do with the 2008 economy but these C BS's have faired much better than their CLK counterparts.