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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 09:08 AM
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I second this notion down to the detail of preferred weapon of choice. I consider the Springfield XDs to be one of my best purchases when it comes to weaponry.
Having said that, I prefer to see how far the hands can take you if realistic chances are evident. Here, in this case that's not so. Outnumbered and with family, I cant say I fault the RR driver one bit.
I love my XDs. I still have to send mine in for the recall though. As far as deadly force, I would only use it if I felt my life was in danger. Obviously a 105 lb girl with nothing in her hands coming up to my window wouldn't get shot by me. But ANYONE that has broken into my house had better be prepared. I call the cops once I am safe...and so they can take your body away. My wife shoots about as well as I do too and we have guns strategically placed around our house.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 12:46 PM
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You come to my window, you better be ready to meet the business end of my Springfield XDs or one of my Glocks. If one of us has to die, it ain't gonna be me. Same deal if you break into my house...
You will run out of bullets before they run out of *******s.. hopefully they would run, but odds are if you are in a state with legal carry, odds are a motorcyclist maybe carrying as well, and outside your line of vision.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 04:07 PM
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You will run out of bullets before they run out of *******s.. hopefully they would run, but odds are if you are in a state with legal carry, odds are a motorcyclist maybe carrying as well, and outside your line of vision.
Agreed.

Everyone needs to think about the situation and be realistic. The only way to safely pulled a gun is if the car is adequately armored to protect your family. But you probably wouldn't need to pull a gun in that case.

What I would have done is to keep the vehicle moving until the police shows up, so they wouldn't have a chance to drag me out of the vehicle. Thus I would just reverse and ram back into the horde of bikers and even drive onto the sidewalk if I need to. Hey that's what an SUV is for, right?!--moreover, it's a Range Rover, one of the original SUV for the safari and THE JUNGLE. Unfortunately, the mentality of most SUV drivers is to use it like a car and they forget they are actually driving a SUV. After all, it's mostly pointless to drive a SUV in an urban setting.

BTW, why Mr. Lien has forgotten to keep his door locked in that setting is completely beyond me. And I thought car of that price range will usually autolock the doors over a certain speed.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 04:13 PM
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I would've reversed and ran all over them.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 04:18 PM
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 05:55 PM
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:44 PM
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More footage of the "Charity Ride" and Law Biding Citizens! When will these fools learn not to post self-incriminating evidence? Once it's on the internet, it will forever be there...

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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 08:02 PM
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The driver just traded his RR and is out looking for the bikers.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 08:24 PM
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I read in an NYC paper today the cops were having trouble tracking these guys down because of the number of bikes with no plates, stolen plates or plates that belonged to other bikes.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 09:08 PM
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 12:49 AM
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Could this video win the award for the biggest collection of douchlords in any one place at any one time?

Where is a 2000lb JDAM when you need one?
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 02:31 AM
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I've seen a lot of comments like these. If true I'm amazed the cops don't try to break these groups up before something bad happens.

As a trucker that would deliver in north jersey and New York I am familiar with these gangs. I can hopefully clarify a few things. First the initial "accident" is part of a game they play. They ride in a huge group and will operate together to slow down traffic. Next they pick out high end vehicles targeting people with families in them, the targets will usually be white or Asian. Then one of the riders will do a " brake check" and stop suddenly in front of the target vehicle causing a minor bump. In some cases they will just roll back into their target vehicle . They will then mob the vehicle demanding money and or begin attacking the person inside. It is their practice to also slash the tires to prevent the vehicle from escaping. Truckers are well aware of them and are advised not to stop.

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There are scams and set ups every day. One of the individuals set up the situation for the bump to occur. Noticed how the SUV was boxed in with no way of getting out of the situation. Then he intentionly slowed down to allow the bump to occur. If the driver was to get out that would have been a bad move. To flee to a safer area would have been better, such as he did. I am surprised there was not any officers that may have seen the incident occuring along the freeway. The SUV driver, in my opinion may have been set up as a target.

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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 10:02 AM
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Seriously dude.. that was not cool, but neither was what the motorcyclist did.

However, no matter who was in the wrong, you just admitted to a felony on on a public forum.

As for the topic, I would have done the same thing. That type of crowd is why my wife won't let me get another bike, as well as why insurance is so damn high.
What friggin law school did you drop out of??? Not sure what state you live in but in IL I can slam on my brakes whenever I want, if I get rear ended the guy that rear-ended me gets the ticket for following to close of failure to reduce speed to avoid an accident. Besides, who is to say a dog didn't jump out in front of him LOL?
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FYI, I own and ride a lot of motorcycles what these guys did was uncalled for. Trust me, I have done my fair share of stupid stuff in my days but this in a whole new level of stupid. They are all lucky that I was not the guy in the Rover with my wife and kids because their would have been a 50 block trail of carnage and I promise a few of them would be laying in caskets right now. Mess with me one on one that is fine, endanger my wife or kids and you better be prepared to go til the death!
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 11:00 AM
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but in IL I can slam on my brakes whenever I want, if I get rear ended the guy that rear-ended me gets the ticket for following to close
You're allowed to commit insurance fraud in IL? Nice!
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 11:14 AM
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You're allowed to commit insurance fraud in IL? Nice!
Where did I mention insurance fraud?? In IL the driver that does the rear ending is at fault. in most states this is the case unless it is a no fault state. Bottom line is that if you can not stop in time you are following too close no matter if the driver ahead of you is stopping because traffic is stopping, becuase he has a mechanical issue or because he just feels like slamming on his brakes. it is nearly impossible to prove the driver up front is at fault.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 12:00 PM
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Where did I mention insurance fraud?? In IL the driver that does the rear ending is at fault. in most states this is the case unless it is a no fault state. Bottom line is that if you can not stop in time you are following too close no matter if the driver ahead of you is stopping because traffic is stopping, becuase he has a mechanical issue or because he just feels like slamming on his brakes. it is nearly impossible to prove the driver up front is at fault.

That is true...unless there is video of you cutting in front of the vehicle with only 2 feet to spare and brake checking him.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 12:55 PM
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IT was a stupid and equally unfortunate incident that happened.

I just wish those bikers learnt something from the experience (probably not).
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 01:32 PM
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I ride myself and im ashamed to say that because people may place me in to the same category as these worthless beings. I would have done the same thing. If cops aren’t helping, i would have ran over every single one that tried to approach me.
They do this on purpose and when they go down they claim victim. One of the previous posts is correct, they look for people to attack.
And if anyone "innocent" got hurt, well im sorry to say its their fault for going on a mass ride with dirt bags. I've been riding for 8 years and ive made sure to stay away from crowds more than 5 bikes and only go with people i know.
Decent riders don’t cut people off, cage them in, split lanes for miles at a time and threaten others on the road and take off license plates from their bikes.

I hope they find more of them and charge them with at least assault. And i hope the driver of the RR walks away from all of this.

Maybe RR will give him a new car for such a good offloading commercial.

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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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or because he just feels like slamming on his brakes.
That's called reckless driving = illegal and a major traffic violation.

EDIT: A couple links for you just in case you didn't know

http://www.illinoistrafficlaws.us/20...and-penalties/

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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 01:48 PM
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Maybe RR will give him a new car for such a good offloading commercial.
W.T.F.


But back on topic, I really, really, really, really respect the guy driving that car. He just wanted to get his wife and daughter out safe, and he was able to accomplish that. He also must have been one on the nicest people in this whole world, because if me or pretty much anyone else had been in his place, they would've left a boatload of dead bodies all over the road for ****ing around with him, his family, and least importantly his car.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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W.T.F.


But back on topic, I really, really, really, really respect the guy driving that car. He just wanted to get his wife and daughter out safe, and he was able to accomplish that. He also must have been one on the nicest people in this whole world, because if me or pretty much anyone else had been in his place, they would've left a boatload of dead bodies all over the road for ****ing around with him, his family, and least importantly his car.
illumunus I have to disagree with you here. I would say the majority of people would not have acted this way. I would say if most other people were driving, you would be hearing an entirely different story that would probably go some thing like this "Family murdered on XYZ road when crazed lunatic mob motorcyclists bombard an suv, more on the 11:00 news as John Smith is on site with investigators".

I say this because most people don't have the sense to act quick enough when they realize they are in trouble. This guy and his family are lucky he was quick witted enough to get them out of harms way.

Did he act in a reckless manor, will he be fined, possibly jailed... who knows, who the hell cares. He and his family are all alive and well. I would sit in jail knowing I saved my family if that's what it came down to.

Good on RR driver! Hero of the day if you ask me! Guys on bikes went looking for trouble, guess what, they found it! Then ignorantly enough, indicted themselves!!!
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 04:36 PM
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Stupid bikers...

You can see the same group here terrorizing a prius (1.13).... kinda like Guilty's Smart hahahahha.

Look how these idiots ride!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ujSkztMRrs
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Had a quick look at the points deduction for some states, where do they give points for cars or trucks that still have all required fenders, left and right as well as rear quarters left and right and both headlights operating, pointed in the same general direction, as far as brake checking does it matter if the lights work before the crash. Many examples of the contrary are seen daily in the southern states. If it drives they are good to go!
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