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does anyone have suggestions on what brand to get? I'm going to be running 8.5x18 in the front and 9.5x18 in the rear. I've ran Bridgestone Pole Positions in the past to dual as summer tires. not opposed to something similar. thanks!
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I was just thinking of the same thing. What rims/tires for drag racing could be used.
Found this thread for drag race rims/tires.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ag-racing.html
Found this thread for drag race rims/tires.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ag-racing.html
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I was just thinking of the same thing. What rims/tires for drag racing could be used.
Found this thread for drag race rims/tires.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ag-racing.html
Found this thread for drag race rims/tires.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ag-racing.html
M&H Racemasters are some of the best drag radials out there. Mickey Thompson are pretty good to but not as soft compound and a little heavier.
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The Toyo R888s are decent track tires. Got my first set for the C63 a month ago and liked them. Pretty consistent, fairly progressive for an R compound and withstand repeated heat cycles well. Have corded many sets of Toyo RA1s in the past and are by far the brand I've purchased the most, having used Kumho Victoracers, Yokohama A048 and Hoosier R6. The Hoosiers are the stickiest of the bunch but NOT tires you can use in the wet or drive on to and from the track.
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If you're going to be using your OEM 18" wheels for the track, the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup come in a 235/40 and 265/35 sizes and have an XL load rating. Always wanted to try a set but never have.
The Toyo R888s come in the OEM 18" 235/40 and 255/35 sizes (also XL load).
The Toyo R888s come in the OEM 18" 235/40 and 255/35 sizes (also XL load).
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Maybe I am missing something, but could someone tell me how the Bridgestone RE-11s are any different from, say, Pirelli P Zeros? I have had them on the P-car but they seemed to be just a decent street tire, nothing more. An R-comp is easily worth seven seconds a lap around Mosport on my track car. Just curious.
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If you're going to be using your OEM 18" wheels for the track, the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup come in a 235/40 and 265/35 sizes and have an XL load rating. Always wanted to try a set but never have. The Toyo R888s come in the OEM 18" 235/40 and 255/35 sizes (also XL load).
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I like Kumho Ecsta XS and Hankook RS-3 in the street car/track use category. Hankook Z-214 are as good as Hoosiers when new but after a few heat cycles they fall of to RS-3's times. I don't like the Pilot Sport Cups much for the track. They were sticky but unpredictable. The 360º spin convinced me to start looking elsewhere. I'm on Hoosiers now but only one event. I don't have enough experience on them to opine.
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Maybe I am missing something, but could someone tell me how the Bridgestone RE-11s are any different from, say, Pirelli P Zeros? I have had them on the P-car but they seemed to be just a decent street tire, nothing more. An R-comp is easily worth seven seconds a lap around Mosport on my track car. Just curious.
You're experience is a key consideration. If you you're a novice to intermediate I would run a UHP street.
Dunlop SSII, RE11a, RS3, or Exsta XS. Personally I prefer the RE11.
If you're more experienced and have to drive to the track I'd go with the NT01. Personally I think it's the gold standard entry level R comp. Decent in the wet and they're fast till they cord. It's amazing but they don't heat cycle out at all.
I think the R6 is a terrible idea unless your experienced and your car is seriously modded. I wouldn't consider driving them 30 min to the track either. They heat cycle out, are terrible in the rain, and wouldn't work well with stock alignment and spring rates.
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Has anyone with extensive experience tried running r comps on a stock setup? What was the result?
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Keep in mind "r comps" covers everything from an NT01 to an A6 to a full slick. I think the C63 would be fantastic on NT01s or R888s.
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if you've never been to the track before, i agree theres no point in buying special tires. Just use what ever the car has. When you get some experience and feel the tires are holding you back then id go with the r888 and drive to and from with those tires. Its a pain in the *** to be swapping tires and all that unless you've got a trailer or really good friend. Not to mention driving the car on the track will wear you out so much. you really wont want to work on the car too. The r888s worked great on my 500whp supra and lasted 4k miles on the street, which is longer than normal street tires would last on the rear. keep in mind the supra goes from 100whp-500whp with in 500rpm so there is normally a ton of wheel spin. keep in mind r-comps to have to get alittle warm to start working. when the tires are cold it's almost like driving on ice. I cant speak for tires specific on the c, havent gotten out to the track yet with it, but i doubt these nt05s are going to be worth a crap.
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As others have said - if you're a track newbie, I would definitely stay away from R-comp tires until you have a pretty good feeling for the car on street tires. It's not that it would only be a waste of money, it's that R-compound tires generally do not give you nearly as much warning that you're at the limit and are a lot less forgiving once they break away (you have full grip with no tire squeal one second and you're gone the next). Until you get pretty comfortable with car dynamics and you can "feel" what the car is doing (which is likely going to take a couple of seasons), I would stay away from R-comps simply for safety reasons. Once you start to consistently turn good laps, not overcook your brakes and you hit every apex lap after lap - in other words, when the car becomes the limiting factor instead of the driver (you) - that's when you start looking into how you can go even faster.
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Thanks for the input on the RE-11s - will have to get a set and try them out again. Yes, the C63 on R888s is a pretty amazing ride (at least the LCI chassis - I haven't driven a pre-2012 on a track). It feels like it could easily match an E9x M3 on a fast sweeping track.
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As others have said - if you're a track newbie, I would definitely stay away from R-comp tires until you have a pretty good feeling for the car on street tires. It's not that it would only be a waste of money, it's that R-compound tires generally do not give you nearly as much warning that you're at the limit and are a lot less forgiving once they break away (you have full grip with no tire squeal one second and you're gone the next). Until you get pretty comfortable with car dynamics and you can "feel" what the car is doing (which is likely going to take a couple of seasons), I would stay away from R-comps simply for safety reasons. Once you start to consistently turn good laps, not overcook your brakes and you hit every apex lap after lap - in other words, when the car becomes the limiting factor instead of the driver (you) - that's when you start looking into how you can go even faster.
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..... It feels like it could easily match an E9x M3 on a fast sweeping track.[/QUOTE]
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Can you PM me some more info on the kits? Range of adjustment, materials, what's included, etc. Is it just the bushings (all I could find on your website for the W204) or a full camber/caster plate kit like Ground Control for example?
