KIS007

I initially asked this as part of another thread, but did not get a response. Has anyone driven both a normal (stock) 2012+ C63 and a 507? If so, what are the seat of the pants differences? Not the difference in the engine internals, or the 507 hp vs. 451 hp, rather in daily aggressive driving do you feel a difference? Thanks.

coladin

I had a 2011 C63 451bhp and now have a 2015 507.

Seat of the pants:

Significant difference in all aspects. Engine feels more alive, nervous and midrange is truly stunning. It just feels...more everywhere throughout the powerband. After my break-in period where I tried to keep it under 4500rpm, the first couple WOT were scintillating and having spent 30months in my 2011 I am well qualified to tell you the 507 is a monster.

Travelling the same roads day in/day out, what I find the most surprising is the difference in the ride. Certain bumps that I used to drive around, now I don't. Certain crevices on off ramps where I would not hit the brakes, because if I did, it was jarring in the cabin, now I can do so without and jarring shakes in the cabin.

Just a much better, refined car.

KIS007

Makes sense on the engine differences, but I wonder if the ride differences that you have noticed is more from the 2012 refresh, than the P61 package.

rory breaker

2012 is smoother than the 2009 I owned before (although the 09 was a P30 car).

rediesel

I have driven a stock 2012 P31 C63 coupe and own a 507 coupe. Yes, there is a difference; it is definately a faster machine. They are both great cars, and very fast.

507AMG

I have a stock 507, and pulled on a pre-facelift the 63 from a roll. I had another 200 pound passenger in my car, and the driver was the only one in the other vehicle. The pre-facelift 63 was incredibly loud so I assume it had headers or custom exhaust or something. Regardless with the extra passenger in my car I still pulled on him easily.

Kriston

What about a tuned C63 compared to a 507? Im curious to see how it will stack up. Power alone I have more power compared to a stock 507. Which is pretty easily attainable with a simple tune.


Any input?

507AMG

I can't say for sure but anyone willing to put money in an exhaust systems that sounded as loud as the one I pulled on quite possibly had a tune as well. I can't imagine he wouldn't have had it. I can definitely tell you that the look on his face let me know that he absolutely expected the results to be the opposite. I try not to assume every 63 owner is aware of the 507 and what it looks like. Not sure that helps you at all??

rickclass

I can't tell you the difference as this is my first C63.....but sometime I feel the car is fast!

Thor2j

With a tune vs a stock 507 face-lifted the tuned car will have 20-30 more hp, besides that the same

dchl21

it had no header. 2nd deletes at the most.

Kriston

Even then, a secondary delete + Tune should be putting down around 420 WHP. 507 states he pulled on him pretty easy. Unless the C63 just had secondary / reso deleted with no tune.

Thor2j

I have a 13 with only renntech tune, friend has a 507, I can pull a few car lengths on it from 30-100

H20 MRV

I have a 12 C63 coupe and had a new 507 that I did 1800 miles in and the 507 is much more alive, quicker, louder ( down to the map perhaps ) better grip, just better in lots of small ways,
However...my car is getting a re-map, secondary cat delete, KWs and two piece discs all round and I am sure this will sort it or dare I say in make it better than the 507?

Audemars

I test drove a 2012 C63 non-P31 coupe before ordering my new 507 coupe.

Stock for stock, the 2012 just felt slightly heavier and a little less responsive to throttle and steering inputs. It was less tossable, if that makes sense. That may just from my limited (~1hr) time with it, and I wasn't blown away - but I still wanted the 507.


Now if you compare the 507 tuned with Eurocharged V5, charcoal delete, 2nd Cat delete, straight pipe res - it is a monster. It feels extremely light and you can chase down Corvettes at 100mph+ and won't notice you were going that fast.

If you can spare the extra $$$, there is no reason not to get the 507.

rage2

There's a significant difference between the pre-facelift cars vs the facelift cars. The facelifted cars handle a lot better, and put more power to the ground thanks to the MCT.

A facelifted performance pack C63 vs a 507 will offer identical driving feel. They're mechanically identical.

H20 MRV

As I said, and I have had both, just to make sure there in no confusion, I have a 2012 coupe ( facelift ) and a 507 2014 coupe and...


" I have a 12 C63 coupe and had a new 507 that I did 1800 miles in and the 507 is much more alive, quicker, louder ( down to the map perhaps ) better grip, just better in lots of small ways,
However...my car is getting a re-map, secondary cat delete, KWs and two piece discs all round and I am sure this will sort it or dare I say in make it better than the 507? "

Vash

Rage referred to the facelift w/PP. Does your coupe have the P31 package? If not, that's why you felt a big difference between it and the 507. As rage said, there isn't any real difference between facelift P31 and a 507. Non-P31 is down on power, doesn't have the lightweight/forged internals and ltwt crank, upgraded brakes... Tests show that a non-P31 gets walked hard by a FL P31, but after a tune, they're "neck and neck". After the tune it will feel a lot like the 507 you drove.

Rsquad911

The MCT transmission makes quite a big difference as well.

benzito63

Just thought id share my experiences:

i have a pre-face lift 63 with a v5 tune, pulled away from a 507 on a rolling start ~40-120km/h. I was in Sport mode with manual + Sports handling.

Don't know the driver of the 507, but he looked surprised and thumbed-up me after...

Have also had a similar experience with a P31.

v5 is insane.

avery.whss

2011 vs 2015 ...thats like my sister saying to me with the 507 she brought home "Oh the steering feels brand new!" ..it had 600km on the car, so yeah, it's going to feel 10000x better because it hasn't been beaten on yet