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Old May 22, 2017 | 12:56 AM
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Is this one affected? WDDHF7HB5AA164183
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To see if my engine is affected.
Seriously what part of 2010 & older is unclear? You guys managed to find this forum, register for it, and post in this thread, yet don't get that 2009/2010 is before 2011?

How can we make this clearer to new members? Fill us in new posters.
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Old May 22, 2017 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tmaschm
Is this one affected?

WDDHF7HB5AA164183
The title of the thread gives you your answer.
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Old May 22, 2017 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by realjones88
Seriously what part of 2010 & older is unclear? You guys managed to find this forum, register for it, and post in this thread, yet don't get that 2009/2010 is before 2011?

How can we make this clearer to new members? Fill us in new posters.
Man, rough crowd.
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Old May 22, 2017 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tmaschm
Man, rough crowd.
Not rough at all. I think he was asking for your feedback on how the thread title could be made more clear for you to understand. Any ideas?
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Old May 22, 2017 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKROKT
Not rough at all. I think he was asking for your feedback on how the thread title could be made more clear for you to understand. Any ideas?
Model Years 2008-2011: Check your VIN here to see if possibly affected by headbolt issue.
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Old May 22, 2017 | 05:56 PM
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My first choice would be to close the thread and delete it, but if it has to stay I would change the title to "ALL 2008, 2009, 2010 C63 have affected headbolts. Some early 2011." Check here 2008-2011 is far worse than the current title unless you are just joking.


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Old Jun 1, 2017 | 02:55 AM
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WDDGF7HB5AF459184 Is this one affected? Thank you
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Old Jun 1, 2017 | 03:22 AM
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WDDGF7HB5AF459184 Is this one affected? Thank you
The title of the thread gives you your answer.
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Hey about to buy a 2011 E63. Could you please check VIN:WDDHF7HB1BA422619. Thanks
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 03:35 AM
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Hey about to buy a 2011 E63. Could you please check VIN:WDDHF7HB1BA422619. Thanks
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Old Jun 13, 2017 | 09:45 PM
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I would appreciate it if you can please check this VIN as well WDDGF7HB7AF442855

Thank you very much!
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Old Jun 13, 2017 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kchristos
I would appreciate it if you can please check this VIN as well WDDGF7HB7AF442855

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It's a 2010. What do you think (read the thread title).
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Old Jun 13, 2017 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kchristos
I would appreciate it if you can please check this VIN as well WDDGF7HB7AF442855
You have nearly 500 posts on these forums. Can you please explain what part of 2010 & older is confusing to you to the point that you needed to ask for confirmation? Thanks.
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Old Jun 13, 2017 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by realjones88
You have nearly 500 posts on these forums. Can you please explain what part of 2010 & older is confusing to you to the point that you needed to ask for confirmation? Thanks.
I read the first post of this thread below that suggests that not all 2010 models are affected. If this was debunked later on in the threads then my apologies for that. Thank you

Originally Posted by Valvestud
Hello,


As many of you know, I have been providing Datacard info to many members interested in their build sheet, or to verify engine serial number.


I received a PM from a member today who indicates he has a "late 2010 C63". The Datacard for the VIN he provided shows a delivery date of 11/24/2010. The Datacard indicates the engine number is over 4,000 engines beyond serial number 156983 60 060658 where the new head bolts were employed.


Since we've believed that all 2010 and older, and some 2011s were in the affected range, I'm confused about how this one could be outside the range. I did a search to find out which digit in the VIN corresponds to the model year, but had no luck getting a clear answer.


Anyone have any thoughts on all of this?


Thanks,


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Old Jun 21, 2017 | 08:56 PM
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Can you check this VIN and provide data card please? It's an early 2011 C63, thanks!
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Old Jun 21, 2017 | 11:04 PM
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Can you check this VIN and provide data card please? It's an early 2011 C63, thanks!
Am i not seeing a VIN?
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisridebike8
Am i not seeing a VIN?

Lmao, sorry about that that! WDDGF7HB9BF633677
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 05:34 PM
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I'm in the market for a 2011 C63 and want to check a specific car to see if the engine is in the affected range thanks. Also if you can, the data card as well.

WDDGF7HB7BF545176

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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 01:01 PM
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Lmao, sorry about that that! WDDGF7HB9BF633677
Not affected. Datacard attached.

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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cafe2
I'm in the market for a 2011 C63 and want to check a specific car to see if the engine is in the affected range thanks. Also if you can, the data card as well.

WDDGF7HB7BF545176
Not affected. Datacard attached.

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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 01:59 PM
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Hey Joe,

New to the form so apologies if I'm a little confused here.

Im looking at purchasing a 2011 C63 probably in the next couple days but this whole headbolt is issue is making me worry.

Could you possibly check the vin for me as well?

VIN: WDDGF7HB6BF652641

Thank you in advance for going out of your way to help.
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 02:15 PM
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Hey Joe,

New to the form so apologies if I'm a little confused here.

Im looking at purchasing a 2011 C63 probably in the next couple days but this whole headbolt is issue is making me worry.

Could you possibly check the vin for me as well?

VIN: WDDGF7HB6BF652641

Thank you in advance for going out of your way to help.
Not affected.

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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tehvine
Word of warning - My 2011 C63 with Engine 62768 does NOT have the revised headbolts. I was just in there the other night doing valve cover gaskets and I have the early version. My heart sank when I saw them as I should have been far outside the affected range. I also double checked the serial number on the block and it matches. This sucks, hopefully I don't have any issues, but at least I am aware now.
Originally Posted by Tehvine
Yeah, it's definitely a bit troubling which is why I am sharing the info. I would have never purchased this car if I knew this. It means that this defect could go further into the serial numbers than even MB is aware of.





Originally Posted by Tehvine
Yeah I even poked it with a pick tool in disbelief. Just a pocket of oil

All I can think of as to how this happened is either A) Mercedes is wrong... which I don't think is likely or B) someone has had this engine apart and put it back with new old stock headbolts. I didn't see anything in the MB service history that would warrant such a teardown. Could have been an independent shop but who knows.

I'll be pulling the splash covers off probably tomorrow as I get further along in the header install. I'll look for some witness marks that may signify the engine was dropped out. I don't see anything from above yet. But I wouldn't get the pitchforks and torches out just yet. Nobody is perfect in pulling/replacing an engine, there will be something someplace.

Did they update the valve buckets at the same serial number cutoff? I have minor wear on my cam lobes. May be another clue to this puzzle.
Anything new ever come out of this puzzling situation? How could this guy have old headbolts past the engine cutoff for new ones?
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 08:51 PM
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Anything new ever come out of this puzzling situation? How could this guy have old headbolts past the engine cutoff for new ones?
I can't remember but did he post the VIN from the block to be 100% it wasn't an older engine swapped in?
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 10:58 PM
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I can't remember but did he post the VIN from the block to be 100% it wasn't an older engine swapped in?
He says in an above post that he checked the block.

I had another thought.. is it possible MB identified one or more bad lots of the old design, but decided to redesign as well? This might explain why some old style bolts (not "defective") are in engines past the switch over.
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