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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 08:59 PM
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Chris Harris confirms next C63 will be RWD

"I had a little chat with Tobias. He confirmed the next C63 is forced induction, but also mentioned eight cylinders. He also confirmed it would be two-wheel drive and have the electronic LSD seen on the SLS Black Series. Sounds like a complete weapon."

http://www.pistonheads.com/roadtests...p?c=26&i=29205

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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 09:19 PM
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I hope the hood will have raised arches, as of now the new C just doesn't look aggressive enough more curves would also be good DCT would be good but won't have that prolonged pop when you up shift in a MCT
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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 10:21 PM
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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 10:44 PM
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Hey man I actually tracked down this quote regarding the next M3/M4 just for you. I know how you prefer RWD setups (as do I) that challenge drivers. So here ya go:

"M3/M4: Sloppy drivers need not apply

'The M3/M4 won’t tolerate sloppy throttle inputs. It’s without a doubt the highest-performance road car M has built, but it also requires a LOT of talent to drive ... at least BMW has a network of driver’s schools to help there, starting with the teen driving program up through the BMW CCA race schools.'"


- A BMW employee who’s driven the new F80 M3

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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 10:49 PM
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Hey man I actually tracked down this quote regarding the next M3/M4 just for you. I know how you prefer RWD setups (as do I) that challenge drivers. So here ya go:

"M3/M4: Sloppy drivers need not apply

'The M3/M4 won’t tolerate sloppy throttle inputs. It’s without a doubt the highest-performance road car M has built, but it also requires a LOT of talent to drive ... at least BMW has a network of driver’s schools to help there, starting with the teen driving program up through the BMW CCA race schools.'"


- A BMW employee who’s driven the new F80 M3

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-show...?src=soc_fcbks
Thanks man! I appreciate you looking out for me!

I like the looks of the new M4 a LOT, the only drawback is that it comes with a an in-line 6 and sounds a little bit like a fart can

But this year should be pretty interesting, I'm gonna try to be as patient as I can before pulling the trigger on a new car. The Jag F coupe is the best bang for the buck. When I test drove the convertible I fell in loce but it was pretty tight in there. Being 6'3 doesn't help much. Hopefully the coupe will have more leg room

PS: The link is dead
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Thanks man! I appreciate you looking out for me!

I like the looks of the new M4 a LOT, the only drawback is that it comes with a an in-line 6 and sounds a little bit like a fart can

But this year should be pretty interesting, I'm gonna try to be as patient as I can before pulling the trigger on a new car. The Jag F coupe is the best bang for the buck. When I test drove the convertible I fell in loce but it was pretty tight in there. Being 6'3 doesn't help much. Hopefully the coupe will have more leg room

PS: The link is dead
Haha no problem whatsoever!

Yeah the new M3/M4 is certainly very impressive from an engineering standpoint. And the inline 6 is very true to BMW's roots. However, like you, I'm quite keen on V8s.

You're also right in that the new M3/M4 does not sound very good at all (compared to the previous 4.0L V8). It's raspy. Doesn't have the same growl and thunder as the 6.2L M156. I'm definitely going to drive both the F80 M3 and the 2015 C63 when I have the opportunity but am already leaning strongly toward the AMG because it will retain the V8 (albeit a biturbo V8).

The Jag is a great option. There are more options than ever for enthusiasts currently. Competition in the industry is good; the customers reap the benefit.

And try this link: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-show...in-detroit-bmw

I updated the link in my original post as well.

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I was at the BMW press conference in Detroit when they rolled out the M3 and M4, and they revved the crap out of it. It sounds terrible compared to the old V8.
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I like V8's too, and as far as I'm concerned the last 10 years of M cars sounded like stalling diesels, and still too (unless their at 8k RPM, then they only get a passing grade)

I just hope this new C63 will be able to go around a track for more than 2 laps without seeing limp mode!... ugh
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Originally Posted by zibby43
"I had a little chat with Tobias. He confirmed the next C63 is forced induction, but also mentioned eight cylinders. He also confirmed it would be two-wheel drive and have the electronic LSD seen on the SLS Black Series. Sounds like a complete weapon."

http://www.pistonheads.com/roadtests...p?c=26&i=29205

Now we wait for confirmation regarding the transmission.


That help me to make up my mind not getting the new C63, there are ton of better choices 2015.
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 02:14 AM
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YAYYY!! really glad AMG will keep it rwd and I look forward to trying it.

btw guys I read somewhere that it is pretty much confirmed it will remain MCT...dont remember the article/video though...kinda disappointing but whatever..im just glad its not going to be AWD.

I hope they make some body modifications for the AMG this time (read wider rear fenders)
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 02:24 AM
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LOVE that it's staying a RWD, but is AWD an option still? I thought they were pretty determined to come out with an AWD version to compete with the likes of Audi and BMW? Or will is be region-specific (EU-AWD, US-RWD)?

EDIT: natman316, that gif is flippin hilarious!!
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I suspect this is going to be region specific with US-based models being 4matic. I don't see why AMG would make all other non-black series AMG models in the US 4matic and then decide to keep the C63 RWD in the US.

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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 12:33 PM
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But why the us is specifically 4matic? Do they think people here are bad drivers and need extra help? Lol
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 12:39 PM
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But why the us is specifically 4matic? Do they think people here are bad drivers and need extra help? Lol
I think it's due to the higher uptake of models where 4matic is offered in the US. Either way, I just read http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...eries-in-store and it seems like 4matic really is off the table...I'm vastly disappointed as I envisioned the next C63 being the ultimate all weather DD.

Back to the drawing board for me.
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 01:34 PM
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I thought they might have an AWD option for the C63 but definitely keep the RWD available. Im also very happy they are keeping this car RWD! RWD really is so much more fun a Ive experienced driving my C63 vs my Fathers E63S 4M.

AMGs popularity was built on the recklessness of these cars. AWD make the car too boring and it no longer stays an enthusiasts car IMO
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 01:35 PM
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What would be perfect is on-demand 4WD. Why can't they figure it out!!!!!
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I'm sure they can, my wifes old Infiniti FX35 (2007 MY) was rear wheel drive until I hit the snow button, then it was all wheel drive.
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 02:00 PM
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I'm sure they can, my wifes old Infiniti FX35 (2007 MY) was rear wheel drive until I hit the snow button, then it was all wheel drive.
That would be amazing.
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That would be amazing.
Also, my understanding of the Infiniti cars (not eh SUV or crossover models), is that the G35x (or whatever they are calling it now.. Q50), and other sedans with the "x" all wheel drive moniker, is that it is only all wheel drive below 35 or 40mph, after which it is read wheel.. I would have to research that, but I believe that is the way it worked when I last was car shopping (before I bought the C63) edit: From Infiniti's tech pages. "Infiniti’s Intelligent All-Wheel Drive provides power and support where and when you need it, instantly adapting to the changing conditions of the road. By constantly monitoring wheelspin, throttle position and vehicle speed, this system automatically diverts up to 50% of the available power to the front wheels, enhancing traction and control when conditions are less than optimal. When all-wheel drive is not needed, the system sends 100% of the power to the rear wheels for more responsive road performance."

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I suspect this is going to be region specific with US-based models being 4matic. I don't see why AMG would make all other non-black series AMG models in the US 4matic and then decide to keep the C63 RWD in the US.

I think the C is more drivers oriented than Es and S's...so rwd makes sense. For E63 it AWD kinda makes sense since its not a track car anyways..more of a fast DD. Compared to C class which is much more of a sporty car.
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YAYYY!! really glad AMG will keep it rwd and I look forward to trying it.

btw guys I read somewhere that it is pretty much confirmed it will remain MCT...dont remember the article/video though...kinda disappointing but whatever..im just glad its not going to be AWD.

I hope they make some body modifications for the AMG this time (read wider rear fenders)
Originally Posted by tfthach13
LOVE that it's staying a RWD, but is AWD an option still? I thought they were pretty determined to come out with an AWD version to compete with the likes of Audi and BMW? Or will is be region-specific (EU-AWD, US-RWD)?

EDIT: natman316, that gif is flippin hilarious!!
Originally Posted by VaclavSV
I thought they might have an AWD option for the C63 but definitely keep the RWD available. Im also very happy they are keeping this car RWD! RWD really is so much more fun a Ive experienced driving my C63 vs my Fathers E63S 4M.

AMGs popularity was built on the recklessness of these cars. AWD make the car too boring and it no longer stays an enthusiasts car IMO
I'm also very happy to hear that the car will remain RWD. That means less weight and more fun!
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I think they should launch the first 2015 by breaking another world record


Longest Drift - Guinness World Record (2,308 meters) - YouTube

Haha that would be awesome!
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Back to the drawing board for me.
Same here, at this point the only AMG I'm considering is the CLS but waiting to see what they do with the facelift - Audi and Porsche however have my full attention, especially considering the 911 won Motor Trend Best Drivers car two years in a row with the AWD 2013 version beating out the SLS Black Series
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