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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 09:08 AM
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Solved my "too loud" headers problem [updated + video clips]

Hey guys, I'm loving my c63 since I did some work on quieting down my long tube headers!! If I've lost any airflow, I can't tell at all. In fact it seems even quicker now. I've added my central oem muffler back on and took off the x-pipe. I also added two custom silencers with a balance pipe. (See attached pics)

The results are.... I have a deeper tone again like the original car, my cold starts aren't waking up the neighbors from 10 blocks away, I can drive without sounding like a nascar and I can still open her up and scream down the road or gear down like a c63 with headers should sound like. My car is very fast now and feels much smoother than stock. I'm so happy I found a way without having to take off my headers.

I have a couple iPhone video (audio) clips but I'm having trouble trying to upload them on here. If anyone wants to hook me up with their email and I can email my vids and you upload them on this thread for me that would be awesome! One clip is a cold start (not super cold in Tokyo though) and the other is a few 3000-3500rpm.

Oh, also since it's winter my car doesn't get washed as often as summer so its a bit dirty.

Rob
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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 11:18 AM
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Beautiful work. Beautiful welds!
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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 04:47 PM
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Nice work, that's the solution I found works the best, custom resonators and a balance pipe. X pipe sounds like dog****
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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 04:56 PM
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These cars do like some back pressure rather than none, so I would imagine you are feeling more torque possibly. I wonder if you lost top end horsepower. Do you have any dynos before ?

Beautiful work anyway.
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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 06:11 PM
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Beautiful work. Beautiful welds!
Thanks, the guy that works on my car is awesome, he really loves working on c63's and has his own weistec stage 3 supercharged and every possible mod done to his own BS c63. It's nice being able to trust him and his work is amazing.

Originally Posted by Maverick1975
Nice work, that's the solution I found works the best, custom resonators and a balance pipe. X pipe sounds like dog****
Thanks and I totally agree with you!

Originally Posted by johnnyblaze
These cars do like some back pressure rather than none, so I would imagine you are feeling more torque possibly. I wonder if you lost top end horsepower. Do you have any dynos before ?

Beautiful work anyway.
Thank you. Yes it does feel like a increase in torque. I haven't dyno'd my car previously. I'm not a regular track guy, mostly a city driver. I just love the low end power. I am going to the track again in less then two weeks (Fuji Speedway) so I will be able to tell if the top end horse power has decreased. I'll let you know


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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 06:17 PM
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wow, please post videos when you can!!
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 12:31 AM
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video clips

hope these links work.

cold start and 3000-3500rpm clips



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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 01:07 AM
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Beautiful work. Beautiful welds!
+1 GREAT JOB
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 08:01 AM
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Wow that cold start sounds great! Definitely at an acceptable level for the early am. Great job to your installer... Does he want to come to Buffalo, NY and work on my CLS63? Lol
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 10:55 AM
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+1 GREAT JOB
Hey Mykel, (BTW how do you spell your name?) is this something you think you can produce? I would love headers, but need it civil.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 01:32 PM
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whats with that weird U shap piece that kinda looks outta place? looks sick!!!
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 02:14 PM
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i'm attempting to solve my too loud problem with 2 measures:

1 - Random Technology 141-30000 Metal Core Cats
2 - SuperSprint Mufflers

I'll have the mufflers installed mid next week. Then I'll put the cats on when they arrive..... decided to put the cats in to get some of the back pressure back from going with a 3 inch setup....and the smell has been pretty bad when I'm idling in traffic. I can't have my windows down and if I have the AC on, I start to get some of the smell when idling.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikegpr03
+1 GREAT JOB
Thanks mike

Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt
Wow that cold start sounds great! Definitely at an acceptable level for the early am. Great job to your installer... Does he want to come to Buffalo, NY and work on my CLS63? Lol
I agree, totally acceptable for having longtube headers. I wish I had taken a video clip before the work I had done to quiet it down. Haha I doubt he would come to America but the work is really well done

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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 07:03 PM
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whats with that weird U shap piece that kinda looks outta place? looks sick!!!
That weird u shape thing is a balance pipe, necessary for the sound to be balanced. I'll post some more clips soon on the road or track with WOT and you can hear the beautiful headers. Yea the work is sick!! Haha I so happy with the work!

Rob
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason Anthony
i'm attempting to solve my too loud problem with 2 measures:

1 - Random Technology 141-30000 Metal Core Cats
2 - SuperSprint Mufflers

I'll have the mufflers installed mid next week. Then I'll put the cats on when they arrive..... decided to put the cats in to get some of the back pressure back from going with a 3 inch setup....and the smell has been pretty bad when I'm idling in traffic. I can't have my windows down and if I have the AC on, I start to get some of the smell when idling.
Cool! I hope you can get the sound you want

I know what you mean about the smell, the worst is when you're driving in the morning hungover and you get a wiff of the gas smell and feel even more sick hahah.

Please post a clip after your work is done, I'm curious to hear your car
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 07:19 PM
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Yes I'm making something similar to this but using a different center muffler. That odd bend works trust me..
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 08:45 PM
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Yes I'm making something similar to this but using a different center muffler. That odd bend works trust me..
You are totally right about the bend, works very well!

I look forward to seeing what you come up with mike! Please keep me posted
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by C63amg Tokyo
You are totally right about the bend, works very well!

I look forward to seeing what you come up with mike! Please keep me posted
Will do, same idea just with a few tweaks

BTW props to who welded that
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Old Aug 3, 2014 | 04:48 PM
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getting my header from mike at mbh soon

mid pipe will be made for the header crowd

issues found
keeping cost down (super pricey) putting 2 mufflers and cats (100 cell)

would need a group buy of 10 or more the make it under $900.00
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Originally Posted by Mikegpr03
getting my header from mike at mbh soon

mid pipe will be made for the header crowd

issues found
keeping cost down (super pricey) putting 2 mufflers and cats (100 cell)

would need a group buy of 10 or more the make it under $900.00
Interested. What would this include?
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Old Aug 3, 2014 | 06:16 PM
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Interested. What would this include?



The Mid pipe which will have a set of mufflers and 2 Vbands

If the want 100 cell cats it would be extra.

All stainless steel all mandrel bend same quality welds and finish as the power pipe
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Originally Posted by Mikegpr03
The Mid pipe which will have a set of mufflers and 2 Vbands

If the want 100 cell cats it would be extra.

All stainless steel all mandrel bend same quality welds and finish as the power pipe
Some noobish questions here:

- Will it matter what headers you have? ie how will they connect to this setup?
- What does the "balance pipe" actually do?
- In the picture below, what actually gets replaced by this setup?
- I assume cutting of the existing exhaust is required?

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Old Aug 3, 2014 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bardman
Some noobish questions here:

- Will it matter what headers you have? ie how will they connect to this setup?
- What does the "balance pipe" actually do?
- In the picture below, what actually gets replaced by this setup?
- I assume cutting of the existing exhaust is required?

Headers ( MBH has given me the green light to make a system off his design )
He makes one of the best headers Period. So I will fab to make it work with his and others using a general connector ( VBANDS)

Balance pipe will help with flow

Everything in the pic with the exception of the resonator.

No worries we were all newbies at one time
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 11:20 PM
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What brand and pn are the mufflers you used?

Nice setup Tokyo? What brand and pn are the mufflers you used?

Thanks, Mike
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