Stuttgart-UT

oh boy, i'm waiting for the new C63...

dremorg

Nice vid.

c63canada

oh boy now i want to buy a c63 507

alemac63

oh boy I am waiting new c63 toooooooooooo

callmiro

Saw an M4 on the highway yesterday...epic stance

Stuttgart-UT

nice pic but the car looks more like this on the street:

Dave@CarVerse

The M4 looks great in person, although I heard the exhaust note this past weekend at 2014 Bimmerfest, and I was not impressed at all. I am not sure if any current/new gen car will have an exhaust note as good as the M156.

Tjdehya

Haha, that is a dull color. But in all honesty the M4 is the best looking BMW on the road.
I would take an M4 if it didnt sound like a honda civic with a fart can.

-=Hot|Ice=-

I am not a fan of BMW's styling these days.

BD-C63

I believe that the M4 has its exhaust sound sent to the speakers and enhanced so it doesn't sound so blah when you are inside, same as the M5. I find this very sad... I turn my stereo off to hear my exhaust more clearly!

Uwish

The M4 was the better car in almost every aspect except personal love for the c63.
WAit until the new C63 is out before jumping out of your skin

zibby43

He clearly states that he prefers both the motor, the throttle response, and the steering feel (thanks to the C63 still having a hydraulic setup).

But I do agree that the W205 will be a more suitable competitor to the F80/F82.

OlegKouz

I would not trade my 2012 C63 for a new M4.

-=Hot|Ice=-

The only difference is that the M4's isn't recorded, it's the real thing being synthesized through the speakers, sorta like what Porsche does on the 991 911, except that engine actually sounds good in the 911 and not a civic without a muffler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhQcmcKASFE#t=188



http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ined-tech-dept

6.3AMG

Agree. They ruined their cars.

2009c63soon

Porsche doesn't amplify through speakers. The sound symposer is simply fancy speak for piping the engine noise directly into the cabin. Even VW do it on their current GTI. Wonderful effect on both and not the synthesized solution used by BMW, Jag etc. Huge fan of sound symposers. Great in the 911 and actually even better on the Panamera GTS (makes is sound like an old 928 - lovely!) huge detractor of synthesizers. In the case of the M4, what's the point of hailing the wonderful inline 6 if you make it found like a fake V8? I had an E46 back in the day and it was wonderful.

Needless to say, I imagine we all agree that the outgoing AMG bests the lot

Wish they'd looked at things like cylinder deactivation instead of turbos.. AMG volume isn't enough to wreck their CAFE data.

Tjdehya

Nothing wrong with turbos and nothing wrong with the engine in the M4. BMW M division just doesn't put the kind of work/research into their cars like AMG does. They build a car and put and exhaust on it and they are done.

If you guys have been following the spy videos of the AMG GT and the W205 C63, then you would have heard how the exhaust note has evolved over the last few months.

AMG even made a 4 banger sound decent.
That is German engineering... Not some fake sound being pumped through the speakers.

-=Hot|Ice=-

I have full faith in AMG.

Mike3

I just joined this forum. I have a E92 m3 and i am looking to get a AMG next. I cant stand the way the new F80 M3 is. That engine is nothing special and sounds so ricey.

I am hoping the next C63 will at least have the V8 growl. Then i can deal with the trubos.

kimeran

If the 5.5 biturbo mercs are anything to go by...it should sound good enough

-=Hot|Ice=-

Can anyone find the lawnmower in the video? I hear it, just can't see it.

unagi1

^^^That engine has no soul

bobbyzcar

You are kidding right? I owned an E90 M3 and now drive a C63 coupe. I am a fan of both AMG AND M with no bias. I can tell you that The M division modifies the standard car as much if not more the AMG modifies the standard C. I agree the SOUND of the engine is a weak point of the F80/F82, but everything else about it seems to be amazing. One could argue that it is AMG that takes the easy road by refusing to make modifications to solve their weak point. The M division at least modifies the chassis to give it a proper track wide enough tires...not to mention a choice of proper transmissions.
If the only thing everyone seems to think is wrong with the car is the SOUND of the engine then they built a damn good car.

kimeran

Amen!

Tjdehya

you missed the point... My point was that they built the car, put an exhaust on it, and put the car on the market. AMG tunes every part of the car... Including the exhaust note.

Guess what?!? People who buy M3/C63s don't go to the track every day, but they start their car and floor it on a daily basis. I can guarantee you that 90% of M3/C63 buyers only care about how great the car beats up a track a couple times of the year... If at all.

Perhaps the ///M division should tune the exhaust instead of the speakers. <----- get my drift (pun intended)