mthis

Nice runs merc. Car is moving
are you using sport in trans mode?

Overrated

60 whp, is your car a P31 car?

I have owned a small fleet of Turbocharged sports cars over the last 15 years. The Evo with a DP, full exhaust and tune pick up MUCH more than 20 awhp. Have seen around 380 awhp on the stock turbo... full bolt on car of coarse.

Its no secret that forced induction cars, turbo or supercharged have more potential than an NA car.

I do like the C63, great car.

Merc63

I use manual mode. It goes through first gear so fast it cant shift in time.

dubzAMG

Thats me in the second race. Weistec tune, mhp LTH's. Best i did that night was 12.4 @ 114 on street tires.

roadtalontsi

Nice video. I think people have a hard time understanding a tune/header vs blower car.

w204nyc

The c63 is very limited. After a tune and headers, there isn't much you can do besides a supercharger. Unless you milk out every little part like Hagi and swap out for lighter aftermarket parts. My 335xi had lots of options and gets a lot more than 20whp from a tune. Not to mention you can upgrade the turbos and I've seen videos of a 335i with upgraded turbos beating a tuned c63 full bolt-ons.

PetroC63

The owner belongs to the same caddy forum as me.

He's already being coerced into doing some mods to bridge the gap. lol

Insomniac

Hey have you two C63 guys dynoed your cars?

Merc63

No never been dynod yet.

avery.whss

no way in hell will a 335i with upgraded turbos beat a tuned C63 yet alone a C63 with a blower...Lol...I raced my friend who has a R32 GTR ...able to run 800WHP (upgraded everything on his engine..turbos, fuel rails etc)..he's running around 510AWHP (22 boost) and I pull him in 3rd...no 335i would be able to touch this skyline and he even launched @ 6k RPM and I just WOT'd it with ESP on and kept with a car length..All those c63 vs 335i on youtube are stupid..none of those c63 drivers know how to drive which is why in all of those videos the C63 sounds more quite then the 335i (which means the idiots probably left the C63 in coffee mode)

I raced a turbo civic the other night and the guy has 340WHP and I smoked him...so unless a upgraded turbo 335i is putting down 500+WHP/Similar TQ (which I highly doubt) then it's gonna be a no go

w204nyc

Never said it beats a c63 supercharged. I said a tuned c63 with headers

avery.whss

those C63s must be high up in elevation no way they'd pull my buddies R32 GTR especially my c63 if I'm pulling my friends R32

they must be because even a guy in the comments is confused

"wow, nice i was expecting the 335i to loose. I raced a stock C63 the other night and i was just a bit slow with RB's and 50-50mix E85 and 100 octane and 100% meth..."

theres a guy in alberta here that gets walked on by 300whp evos..elevation seems to really eat HP in N/A cars

w204nyc

Idk but they got walked on pretty fast. Turbos are the way to go!

AMG Boost

That 335I has aftermarket RB turbos and pushes over 500whp according to what I just read.

Mods: JB4, RB Upgraded Turbos, exhaust, DCI, meth injection.

w204nyc

Yea $3,000 turbos. Same price as our headers.

AMG Boost

I havent researched modding a N54 motor but how long will that motor last at 500whp with stock internals compared to a headers tune M156? My money would be that the M156 will be reliable for years.

EDIT: not saying that 335I isnt impressive, thats good power! You can take down stock R35 GTRs with that power all day....

w204nyc

Well thats a whole other question lol my stock 335xi had a lot of problems but none of them were related to the motor. I never liked turbos before my 335xi because they sound kind of ricey and played out but the mods never stop with turbos.

JumpinJim

What's sad is with some mods the CTSV would be outrunning the blown C63 at a fraction of the cost of just the blower. MB mod tax is ridiculous.

w204nyc

+1

avery.whss

Totally...






thats like 20 car lengths + I'm sure the CTS-V will need more then a "few k" in mods

Insomniac

Ya. Probably more like $10k. I may do a "few k" in mods that might get me into the 11's on my Michelins (pulley, tune, HX). But I'm happy with the car as is.

To get into the tens like merc63's car, at our track, I'd be looking at drag wheels and tires, headers, injectors, cam and maybe some headwork on top of what I already mentioned. It's a bit of an ordeal.

JumpinJim

Should look before you leap. There's lots of CTSVs in the 10s with just a tune, pulley swap, and some headers. All silly cheap compared to what it would cost on an MB.

w204nyc

It would be nice for Petro to chime in since he switched over recently

Insomniac

I just got to my car. Will you mf'rs leave me alone!?! Salt in the wounds!?!

Haha.

shchow

Mod vs mod the V will walk the C for peanuts.
There are plenty of Vs in the 9s.
I don't think there are any Cs in the 9s...