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There is no way a 425 HP crank car made over 500 wheel
It makes 375 at the wheels according to rototest
They do a 12 step test 5 sec measurement at each step
ISO and DIN certified
They are not a tuner but an independent testing authority
To go from 375 to over 500 is a >33% gain
That means they cranked the boost up st least 6 psi
Good luck with warranty and longevity
You 're going to need the warranty ... BANG!!!!
Motortrend
M3 12.1/119
M4 12.2/117
Stock C63's have run that
And the AMG is at least 400 lbs heavier
Last edited by Ingenieur; Jul 15, 2014 at 03:49 PM.
April 2014 motortrend
507 coupe
12.2/117
400 lbs heavier
Smaller tires
No dct
No launch
Same as the M3
Whp M3 400????
AMG 360 plus 400 lbs
But same speed???
Does not compute
540 whp
Almost a 45% increase
I got a bridge I'll sell you
Last edited by Ingenieur; Jul 15, 2014 at 04:00 PM.
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Yeah that F80 is going to be a tuners dream car! Will be a monster for sure when modded! And if anyone questions Burger, don't! Burger knows their s*it when it comes to BMW's!
Both those cars are owned by ModeCarbon. They lined them up but the driver on c63 had a bad start. I will let ModeCarbon chime in on this as they were driving these cars. I do want to note that the M3 was a manual and driven by a EX PRO RACER. I was at the event and witnessed this. Hope this clears some things here...
I've never heard of burger, heard of
M gmbh
Alpina
AC Schnitzer
Hartge
Nowack
Turner
Dinan
G-Power
Hamman
Active Autowerkes
And many others
But no burger lol
They do tend to fly a little under the radar, but if you are a BMW enthusiast of any kind and into modding, you would for sure know who Burger Tuning is. They are pretty knowledgeable on the BMW platforms.
Both those cars are owned by ModeCarbon. They lined them up but the driver on c63 had a bad start. I will let ModeCarbon chime in on this as they were driving these cars. I do want to note that the M3 was a manual and driven by a EX PRO RACER. I was at the event and witnessed this. Hope this clears some things here...
That clears a lot up
What was the 'race'?
Flying 1/4 mile from a roll? ???
The trrminal speed was the same 136 mph +/-
They do tend to fly a little under the radar, but if you are a BMW enthusiast of any kind and into modding, you would for sure know who Burger Tuning is. They are pretty knowledgeable on the BMW platforms.
I've owned BMW's for over 25 years
3 generations of M3's plus a few M5's
I was a mod on the largest m3 forum
Not being a smart@$$ but never heard of them
I've owned BMW's for over 25 years
3 generations of M3's plus a few M5's
I was a mod on the largest m3 forum
Not being a smart@$$ but never heard of them
bimmerpost....?
I have been a member on E90post for over 6 years with over 35000 posts.
Burger Tuning is a household name over there. http://burgertuning.com/
bimmerpost....?
I have been a member on E90post for over 6 years with over 35000 posts.
Burger Tuning is a household name over there. http://burgertuning.com/
M3forum founded in 1999
No longer active, got rid of the M3
Lol you probably never modded your cars then. Burger tuning is thr cheapest route for tuning your car
I modded my cars, I have since learned it is about as useful as a drug habit lol
And I did not want the 'cheapest'
You get what you pay for lol
Never heard of booger nor of their cult following
Besides just because you don't do something doesn't mean you never heard of it
Ever been to the moon? Heard of the moon landing?
I get almost every mag out there from evo to eurotuner
Bmw tuner from gb, all of them
Nope, never heard of them
Heard of Nowack, basically do engineering for M gmbh like AMG did for MB
Bored/stroked/blue printed 720 hp 9000 rpm NA V10
THAT is tuning... Not some engine damaging piggy back signal offset device
I modded my cars, I have since learned it is about as useful as a drug habit lol And I did not want the 'cheapest' You get what you pay for lol Never heard of booger nor of their cult following Besides just because you don't do something doesn't mean you never heard of it Ever been to the moon? Heard of the moon landing? I get almost every mag out there from evo to eurotuner Bmw tuner from gb, all of them Nope, never heard of them Heard of Nowack, basically do engineering for M gmbh like AMG did for MB Bored/stroked/blue printed 720 hp 9000 rpm NA V10 THAT is tuning... Not some engine damaging piggy back signal offset device Video Link: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vo2YnQBY0PE Motortrend dyno at K&N 379 whp basically in line with the rototests numbers and measured losses of 8-10% of modern BMW's http://blogs.motortrend.com/1407_on_...?__federated=1
Its ok buddy you dont have to google about burger tuning. Yes there have been cases where the engine has gotten messed up. But i have plenty of friends that have had their factory stock engines blow up on their mustangs and other american cars.
Its ok buddy you dont have to google about burger tuning. Yes there have been cases where the engine has gotten messed up. But i have plenty of friends that have had their factory stock engines blow up on their mustangs and other american cars.
I wasn't planning on it buddy
I will never have need of their services
Especially the one that blows the engine up lol
You know 'plenty' of people who blew up stock engines?
You realize it was your buddy's fault not bad design, don't you?
I appreciate the M for what it is, not what others want me to BELIEVE it is
Last edited by Ingenieur; Jul 15, 2014 at 06:08 PM.
I still want to know the race parameters, the 'set up'
Without that the video is meaningless beyond:
About even at start(?)
M gets jump...pro driver vs bad start
AMG reels it in
Delta time 0.6 sec out of 10+
Delta velocity 1 mph out of ~136
M is 400 lbs lighter and purportedly delivers more power whp 400 vs 380 (modded)
What can we deduce from this?
Last edited by Ingenieur; Jul 15, 2014 at 06:14 PM.
Ingenieur, I appreciate your search for factual data, but there's a real trend : the new M3/4 is severely underrated from the factory. I don't know how, why, how come some magazines have it tied with the C63 507, but those are real world proofs.
BTW here's another video where you can see the old vs new M3 on a (heartbreaking) dyno:
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.
