Negative Affects Of Getting A Eurocharged Tune On A 2012 C63 Performance Pack
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Negative Affects Of Getting A Eurocharged Tune On A 2012 C63 Performance Pack
I recently purchased a 2012 C63 AMG Performance Package. It has 481hp and 443 torque.
I hear quite a few people go ahead with getting a reflash/tune on their car which opens up significant gains. Eurocharged claims that with my stock C63 Performance Pack, I will be pushing 540hp or so and a bit more torque as well.
Now my worry is, what are the negatives of getting this done? I presume with the added hp and torque comes increased wear and tear on engine, transmission components (lets not even begin on tires) and perhaps warranty as well? Although Eurocharged will provide me the handheld (for a price ofcourse) so that I can add or remove the tune as and when needed.
I really am at odds and although I want the extra "boost" that comes with the tune, I just don't want to have it at the expense of my peace of mind and increase in engine/service issues with my new car.
Please advise.
I hear quite a few people go ahead with getting a reflash/tune on their car which opens up significant gains. Eurocharged claims that with my stock C63 Performance Pack, I will be pushing 540hp or so and a bit more torque as well.
Now my worry is, what are the negatives of getting this done? I presume with the added hp and torque comes increased wear and tear on engine, transmission components (lets not even begin on tires) and perhaps warranty as well? Although Eurocharged will provide me the handheld (for a price ofcourse) so that I can add or remove the tune as and when needed.
I really am at odds and although I want the extra "boost" that comes with the tune, I just don't want to have it at the expense of my peace of mind and increase in engine/service issues with my new car.
Please advise.
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This tune is more-or-less going to set the management system to where it should be from the factory. Your car has been de-tuned from the factory to keep it underpowered allowing them to charge more for some of their more powerful cars running the same exact engine.
I personally do not believe you will ever see a neg side effect from this mod, unless of course you consider getting sideways a neg!
You will lose your warranty of the dealer finds it though.
I personally do not believe you will ever see a neg side effect from this mod, unless of course you consider getting sideways a neg!
You will lose your warranty of the dealer finds it though.
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I wouldn't worry too much about wear, our engine is very restricted from the factory and can handle a lot more power.
That been said, you probably won't be at 540hp with a tune only. More likely 510-520hp, from what I've seen on this forum. Maybe others can confirm!
That been said, you probably won't be at 540hp with a tune only. More likely 510-520hp, from what I've seen on this forum. Maybe others can confirm!
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This tune is more-or-less going to set the management system to where it should be from the factory. Your car has been de-tuned from the factory to keep it underpowered allowing them to charge more for some of their more powerful cars running the same exact engine.
I personally do not believe you will ever see a neg side effect from this mod, unless of course you consider getting sideways a neg!
You will lose your warranty of the dealer finds it though.
I personally do not believe you will ever see a neg side effect from this mod, unless of course you consider getting sideways a neg!
You will lose your warranty of the dealer finds it though.
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Let's say the car is in the ballpark of 520hp. Do you guys recommend going for a tune? I hear some people say it livens up the car further, but our tires aren't the greatest to begin with so more power is kind of a moot point.
Please do chime in.
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Is it possible to rollback to the stock ECU before any dealer visits to prevent them from denying warranty claims?
Isn't there a log they can audit that tells them it was changed? (and possibly still deny warranty claims due to your log showing an ECU change in the past)
Isn't there a log they can audit that tells them it was changed? (and possibly still deny warranty claims due to your log showing an ECU change in the past)
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Thanks for the info, yes I too found 540 with just a tune to be too high.
Let's say the car is in the ballpark of 520hp. Do you guys recommend going for a tune? I hear some people say it livens up the car further, but our tires aren't the greatest to begin with so more power is kind of a moot point.
Please do chime in.
Let's say the car is in the ballpark of 520hp. Do you guys recommend going for a tune? I hear some people say it livens up the car further, but our tires aren't the greatest to begin with so more power is kind of a moot point.
Please do chime in.
But a tune is cheaper when compared to all the things you need to do to increase handling (LSD, tires, suspension, lighter hood & trunk, etc).
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I had the Eurocharged tune, and it dyno'd at 534bhp (With Carbinio intake).
The tune is awesome...much louder blips on downshifts, generally a more brutal sound from the exhaust.
Dont worry about wear and tear on the engine, there is plenty potential for increasing BHP with stock internals.
Jerry at Eurocharged is a top guy and knows the M156 platform inside out.
The tune is awesome...much louder blips on downshifts, generally a more brutal sound from the exhaust.
Dont worry about wear and tear on the engine, there is plenty potential for increasing BHP with stock internals.
Jerry at Eurocharged is a top guy and knows the M156 platform inside out.
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This and that.
The only reason I am refraining from a tune in my 2011 with PP is the warranty. Also, I heard that it doesn't affect the PP cars too much other than making the shifts better. But I am mostly just concerned with the dealer refusing warranty work if something bad was to happen!
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The only reason I am refraining from a tune in my 2011 with PP is the warranty. Also, I heard that it doesn't affect the PP cars too much other than making the shifts better. But I am mostly just concerned with the dealer refusing warranty work if something bad was to happen!
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If you get the handheld, you can flash it back to stock prior to taking it to the stealer. From what i know when you flash with the Eurocharged tune it does not increase the "flash counter" in the ECU. 
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I recently purchased a 2012 C63 AMG Performance Package. It has 481hp and 443 torque.
I hear quite a few people go ahead with getting a reflash/tune on their car which opens up significant gains. Eurocharged claims that with my stock C63 Performance Pack, I will be pushing 540hp or so and a bit more torque as well.
Now my worry is, what are the negatives of getting this done? I presume with the added hp and torque comes increased wear and tear on engine, transmission components (lets not even begin on tires) and perhaps warranty as well? Although Eurocharged will provide me the handheld (for a price ofcourse) so that I can add or remove the tune as and when needed.
I really am at odds and although I want the extra "boost" that comes with the tune, I just don't want to have it at the expense of my peace of mind and increase in engine/service issues with my new car.
Please advise.
I hear quite a few people go ahead with getting a reflash/tune on their car which opens up significant gains. Eurocharged claims that with my stock C63 Performance Pack, I will be pushing 540hp or so and a bit more torque as well.
Now my worry is, what are the negatives of getting this done? I presume with the added hp and torque comes increased wear and tear on engine, transmission components (lets not even begin on tires) and perhaps warranty as well? Although Eurocharged will provide me the handheld (for a price ofcourse) so that I can add or remove the tune as and when needed.
I really am at odds and although I want the extra "boost" that comes with the tune, I just don't want to have it at the expense of my peace of mind and increase in engine/service issues with my new car.
Please advise.
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Then you know the answer to the question...don't tune car your car. I would not expect to be able to hide your tune by reflashing before dealer visits...if you choose to tune your car you have to assume the engine warranty is gone.
I don't think it's worth it on a car with the p31 anyway.
I don't think it's worth it on a car with the p31 anyway.
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This and that.
Then you know the answer to the question...don't tune car your car. I would not expect to be able to hide your tune by reflashing before dealer visits...if you choose to tune your car you have to assume the engine warranty is gone.
I don't think it's worth it on a car with the p31 anyway.
I don't think it's worth it on a car with the p31 anyway.
Exactly the conclusion I reached! The advantages on a P31 is just simply not worth the possible hassle of voiding the warranty. Plus the car goes through the tires fast enough as it is. lol
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Then you know the answer to the question...don't tune car your car. I would not expect to be able to hide your tune by reflashing before dealer visits...if you choose to tune your car you have to assume the engine warranty is gone.
I don't think it's worth it on a car with the p31 anyway.
I don't think it's worth it on a car with the p31 anyway.
I am curious to see if Mercedes can tell that the car has been tuned or retuned etc even if it is back to factory set up.
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The only reason I am refraining from a tune in my 2011 with PP is the warranty. Also, I heard that it doesn't affect the PP cars too much other than making the shifts better. But I am mostly just concerned with the dealer refusing warranty work if something bad was to happen!
These are peak gains, there is no detail on how the power/torque curves are impacted across the range.
You can check out the PP performance numbers here:
http://pp-performance.de/en/tuning/chiptuning/
Just choose your specific C63 model to get before and after claims.
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My concern would be on two things
1 Warranty going bye bye
2 all the other components that become the weak link in the drive train.....tranny, drive shaft, and hell tires don't exactly like the stock hp as is
1 Warranty going bye bye
2 all the other components that become the weak link in the drive train.....tranny, drive shaft, and hell tires don't exactly like the stock hp as is
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Guys like Keith (Dads C63) and if I'm not mistaken Merc63 has a stage 3 blower. Both, do not have internal work. At least I know Keith didn't. Keith's car with 200 shot was pushing over 900 crank Hp and he never blew a piston or cracked the block. His transmission was replaced 3 times he told me. All from weistec. This motor can sure take a beating. You won't have any problems with a tune.
OE has done testing on safe rev limit increases. Stock non p31 revs to 7010. P31 I believe is 7210. For a non p31 car an increase of 7300 is acceptable. The p31 with upgraded valve train can handle 7500.
OE has done testing on safe rev limit increases. Stock non p31 revs to 7010. P31 I believe is 7210. For a non p31 car an increase of 7300 is acceptable. The p31 with upgraded valve train can handle 7500.
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A 200 rpm increase is ~6% more stress
Does the ecu give the tcu a shift command?
Or does the tcu sense speed and is self-contained?
If the engine rev limit is increased I assume the tranny shifts higher or there would be no point
Does the ecu give the tcu a shift command?
Or does the tcu sense speed and is self-contained?
If the engine rev limit is increased I assume the tranny shifts higher or there would be no point
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Has anyone on here ever had a warranty claim rejected because of a software mod? Every vehicle I have owned since 2003ish has had software mods and it has never been questioned. Even my C32 went unnoticed.
