[PICS] How close can the rim be to the caliper?
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[PICS] How close can the rim be to the caliper?
Guys,
Need some advice.
I am looking at a set of rims.
FRONT: 8.5 x 19, 40 Offset
REAR: 9.5 x 19, 48 Offset.
The rears arent a concern. They fit perfectly with 275 rubber.
The front also sit great.
But the spokes of the rims are VERY close to the caliper.
Like 1mm away. VERY VERY close.
I have seen cars rims that are close to the caliper, but not sure if this close.
Can anyone confirm if it is OK to run this? Or is this just way too close?
See pics.
Thanks for your help!
Need some advice.
I am looking at a set of rims.
FRONT: 8.5 x 19, 40 Offset
REAR: 9.5 x 19, 48 Offset.
The rears arent a concern. They fit perfectly with 275 rubber.
The front also sit great.
But the spokes of the rims are VERY close to the caliper.
Like 1mm away. VERY VERY close.
I have seen cars rims that are close to the caliper, but not sure if this close.
Can anyone confirm if it is OK to run this? Or is this just way too close?
See pics.
Thanks for your help!
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hmm, thats comforting to hear then. Thanks for the feedback.
Any more thoughts?
Oh and what does people think of this rim style?
Any more thoughts?
Oh and what does people think of this rim style?
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And also, i have found some 3mm spacers that i can run, and i did the measurments.
8.5" Wide with 3mm spacer will bring ET down to +37
9.5" wide with 3mm spacer will bring ET down to +45
Will be a great looking fitment.
But the spacers being so thin, wont be hub centric.
Will this be an issue with vibrations? I have had spacers on the ML63 (15mm spacers) but they were hub centric. Never had 1 vibration. Though, with non-hubcentric i dont have any experience with.
Can anyone comment?
Thanks
8.5" Wide with 3mm spacer will bring ET down to +37
9.5" wide with 3mm spacer will bring ET down to +45
Will be a great looking fitment.
But the spacers being so thin, wont be hub centric.
Will this be an issue with vibrations? I have had spacers on the ML63 (15mm spacers) but they were hub centric. Never had 1 vibration. Though, with non-hubcentric i dont have any experience with.
Can anyone comment?
Thanks
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As long as it doesn't rub it's ok.
Once the rim is fixed on it doesn't move in that way and shouldn't move in anyway to hit the caliper.
So measure up and spin the wheel, if it doesn't rub the caliper at all then you're all good
PS: Stick with hubcentric spacers.
Rims look off their head. I'm thinking of getting a set for mine!
Once the rim is fixed on it doesn't move in that way and shouldn't move in anyway to hit the caliper.
So measure up and spin the wheel, if it doesn't rub the caliper at all then you're all good
PS: Stick with hubcentric spacers.
Rims look off their head. I'm thinking of getting a set for mine!
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My friend runs the same wheels for winter, they are very close to the calipers like your pic... he didnt have any problem with rubbing at all for 4 winters already.
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As long as light can pass...
If you have the wheel moving on the hub so that it hits the caliper then you have another issue which would likely lead to tears. Once the wheel is on the hub it isn't moving or wabbling.
I've had some pretty tight fitting wheels before. I'll admit, my bootyhole was a little puckered at first and I kept imaging a scene straight out of a movie where the wheel hit the caliper and I started to cartwheel down the road. Still here though.
If you have the wheel moving on the hub so that it hits the caliper then you have another issue which would likely lead to tears. Once the wheel is on the hub it isn't moving or wabbling.
I've had some pretty tight fitting wheels before. I'll admit, my bootyhole was a little puckered at first and I kept imaging a scene straight out of a movie where the wheel hit the caliper and I started to cartwheel down the road. Still here though.
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I've had a setup once that was so close that it shaved a thin line of paint off of the caliper, not enough to touch aluminum to aluminum, but enough that the paint thickness was thicker than the gap... still never had a problem, that's more than enough room there wouldn't worry one bit
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The rims are good to go....like everyone else is saying if it dont scrap, you good bro. One thing though...watch out when you balance the wheels. Make sure you have enough room to pass the weights or youll get a nasty gouge, other than that, all is well
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lol thats dammmmnnnn close, id say space it a little bit just because if you get unlucky n hit a pot hole or something severe enough to damage the rim it may bend that 1mm into a 0mm not to mention you can pick up some road debris n get it caught, again highly unlikely but i wouldn't take chances on the front wheels at the very least
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Thanks for everyones input.
I went ahead and got the rims
I will be putting 3mm hub centric spacer on there to push the fronts out JUST that little bit for piece of mind.
but for now i have just fitted them as is.
I have started a new thread with pics.
Thanks again everyone!!!
I went ahead and got the rims
I will be putting 3mm hub centric spacer on there to push the fronts out JUST that little bit for piece of mind.
but for now i have just fitted them as is.
I have started a new thread with pics.
Thanks again everyone!!!
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From all of the research I have done in the past, the recommended minimum space is 2 mm or about .080". You can use a feeler gauge to check the clearance
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yeah, I'd probably use small spacers too, depending on what the actual clearance is (feeler gauge is a good idea), but if there is clearance, there is no movement other than rotational so clearance shouldn't ever change. They are nice looking rims. It looks like your calipers are blue, too?
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Thanks guys.
Yep, i will be getting 3mm spacers just to be on the safe side.
The rims are on the car now, and are working fine. But god damn its close! hahaha.
Yes, they are similar design to the 18" C63 Update rim. But these wheels are more of a knockoff of the W221 S65 / CL65 rim which comes in 20"
These are 19's tho.
Thanks for the compliments guys.
Yep, i will be getting 3mm spacers just to be on the safe side.
The rims are on the car now, and are working fine. But god damn its close! hahaha.
Yes, they are similar design to the 18" C63 Update rim. But these wheels are more of a knockoff of the W221 S65 / CL65 rim which comes in 20"
These are 19's tho.
Thanks for the compliments guys.
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I stand corrected. That's a bit disturbing, but flex is good to a degree I guess, and now you mention it I do hear my wheels groan a bit (which I assume is flex) sometimes when rotating steering while not moving...
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I doubt you'd ever see that much flex even with aftermarket wheels, if it flexes enough to contact with the clearance you have then your wheel bearing would be shot, only way that could ever make contact. many recommendations for minimum clearance are because most calipers are a floating mount design, a new set of pads will bring the caliper closer again to the wheel, but yours are fix mounted so the clearance you have will never change.
personally I think it's a really bad idea to use a small spacer and eliminating the hub centric mounting... I think that will cause more problems than leaving them as-is... the wheel bolts are spec'd to and rely on hub centric mounting. spacing them just beyond the hub will cause excess stress to the wheel mounting bolts. torque will need to be increased for bolt centric mounting, torque required can be substantially more than with hub centric and wheel bolts are really not intended to be bolt centric. all bolt centric wheel mounting will use larger diameter studs, not M12 bolts... you will probably have to torque them beyond the safe limits of the bolt to secure them properly or you'll get movement that again will increase the stress on the bolts, either scenario is not ideal...
bottom line is I think it would be much safer as-is VS using small non hub centric spacers... you def have enough clearance there with a fixed mount caliper
personally I think it's a really bad idea to use a small spacer and eliminating the hub centric mounting... I think that will cause more problems than leaving them as-is... the wheel bolts are spec'd to and rely on hub centric mounting. spacing them just beyond the hub will cause excess stress to the wheel mounting bolts. torque will need to be increased for bolt centric mounting, torque required can be substantially more than with hub centric and wheel bolts are really not intended to be bolt centric. all bolt centric wheel mounting will use larger diameter studs, not M12 bolts... you will probably have to torque them beyond the safe limits of the bolt to secure them properly or you'll get movement that again will increase the stress on the bolts, either scenario is not ideal...
bottom line is I think it would be much safer as-is VS using small non hub centric spacers... you def have enough clearance there with a fixed mount caliper