SuperFastYo

FUN FACT: If you're ever board go to any car forum and search for "Oil". You'll kill some time with the fighting lol.

Jasonoff

Jasonoff

So, after tossing in some Ceratec almost a month back I can legitimately report increased low RPM torque and and fuel mileage.

As skeptical as I was, I tried it anyway. The results were positive.

BLKROKT

(with that said, I've been running M1 5w-40 since doing the 44O cooling system, no Mos2 or Ceratec, and my car seems to love it)

ENV²

Switched to Liquimoly. Engine likes it alot

bhamg

Interesting that Mobil 1 0W-30 Racing Oil tests out at an astounding 1,654ppm of moly. A full bottle of Liqui Moly MoS2 in the C63 adds about 240-280ppm based on my experience.

Mobil: Mobil 1 Racing 0W-30 is recommended for a wide range of race engine applications including highly loaded flat tappet designs such as NASCAR Cup engines.

Alex.currie44

My dealer in Canada has switched to Shell.

BLKROKT

I looked into using this because I liked the numbers too on first look. The problem is that the Racing Oils have like zero detergents, and break down quickly. They're meant to be put in before running hard on track, then drained out immediately. They don't last long. Diabolis had a good post somewhere about it a year or two ago.

Some good articles here:
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...Number=2879917
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...s-problem.html
http://www.enginelabs.com/engine-tec...e-differences/
https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq

bhamg

I did an extended 11k+ miles OCI on a BMW M S54 motor recently with the pre-GTL Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40 and MoS2. The Blackstone report came back last month. Wear metals were mostly below universal averages (mileage-adjusted to 4,900 miles). TBN was still extremely strong at 3.6 and best of all a Kinematic Viscosity @ 100ºC cSt of 13.67, same as new was at 0 miles. This is a damn good oil.

bhamg

Mobil believes in the benefits of moly for this type of application, that's for sure!

BLKROKT

Agreed. If you drain it right after the track sure. I'm driving long distances to and from tracks, so I'm not with that program really.

I'm switching to Rotella T6 next change after the one I'm doing tomorrow. Have 3 Blackstone samples to send off - one from normal M1 0W-40 with 2 track days, one from M1 0W-40 after Ceratec and Mos2 with 2 track days, and one M1 5W-40 straight with 3 track days. All have around 2k miles on them, and this last one has been in the car since last October when the 44O went in. Will be interesting to see the results, especially the current one with the much lower oil temps. The other two got blasted with 260+deg temps for extended periods.

bhamg

Those'll be interesting, useful data points.

Vladds

The Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W40 is almost the only oil that I can find, that meets the spec for my wife's Fiat Abarth. The other day I saw that it meets the spec for the C63 as well and started to wonder about it.
The crazy thing is that the parts stores around me all dropped the 5W40, but the Fiat dealership sells it for $8/quart.
I am not going to put the time into reading this whole thread, but this then is an oil that returned better test results than a Castrol 0-40 European formula?

Jasonoff

I couldn't source either Pennzoil or Shell in my area. Still using the Mobil 0W40...

bhamg

If you're asking me I've never used the Castrol so I can't speak to it from personal experience. It's widely recommended by BITOGers as an excellent choice for those who need 229.5/LL01 oil. You couldn't go wrong with either IMO, although if I drove where there are real winters I'd look to a 0W oil first.

Vladds

Is there a Fiat studio in your area?

Jasonoff

There's a Fiat dealer in Guelph. Do they stock the stuff?

Vladds

My local studio stocked and had a very good price, it's worth checking.

SuperFastYo

let us know how it goes! Idk if its just my car but I ran highway 2 (Angeles Crest) pretty hard on saturday. Car got up to 261F and started to smell funny so I backed off it. First time I've ever pushed my car hard uphill/downhill on the twisties. The smell scared me a bit lol. Im running motul 5w40 w/ luqui moly

Mort

Typo 161F? Should be 261F.

SuperFastYo

Yes, thanks for the catch Mort

hachiroku

any hard driving in the C63 and you'll need upgraded cooling. good thing you stopped, at those temps cheaper oils fail.