Leec33

So as the title states, this is about my encounter with a friends M4.

I was part of a local cruise a few days ago, approx. 100 cars or so.
There were a few M4's there as well as A bunch of F10 M5's. The event was basically 70% BMW's.
Also having an E60 M5 I decided to take the new toy out and have fun.
So far all I have done is a weistec tune and the weistec air filters.

The cruise led us into a stretch of road that is very industrial so there was little to no traffic since the cruise was at night and a lot of distance between lights.
I was at the front and next to me was my friend in his M4. Both had 1 passenger so no advantage although the M4 is already a few hundred pounds lighter.

We start from the light slow and I shift into second pretty early and I hear him gun it, he's a half a car ahead as he got the jump but then I was extremely surprised with what followed...
After a few seconds I was 1 car ahead, 2, 3.... Walked him very badly considering we only went up to about 100.

I know our cars are beasts but just love seeing real world results come into play!!

Ingenieur

So much for the theory that the m4 is derated and actually makes 500 hp / 500 lb ft
It is close to 300-400 lbs lighter 3550-3600 vs 3850-3950

Did it have the dct?

mikeyyyallday

my friend jus got a 2012 CTSV coupe…i raced him from about 35-40 roll. and he was only half a car ahead of me…but his car is stock w/556 HP..mines is tuned w/ straight pipes and row air boxes

g-f

good stuff.
But when the M4 gets a reflash it'll be over.
However, their engine will still sound like crap.

Ingenieur

That'll be the w205's job
33% more displacement
Slightly higher cr
Much closer in weight
More rubber
Better diff

Stock won't be close since even a stock w204 will run with a stock m3/4
The w205 will smoke a stock m3/4
Tuned to the same boost level the AMG everytime

g-f

Yep you got that right.
With a tune and some supporting mods, I wouldn't be surprised to see the w205 pushing close to 600hp.

Plus the w205 won't need recorded engine noise played in the stereo.

Ingenieur

I could see a stock w205 running high 11's at 119-120
The S a few tenths and a few mph better

I want to see a scale wt
Either way stock will suit me fine

deanmc

Leec33, any chance that we were at the same event and I met you up in the morning? If so, talk to Saeed, I posted some clips of us rolling together on fb. Nice meeting you, glad to see another amg out there!

Leec33

ya i know what you mean, i was expecting to get walked.
it was a manual, but my friend is a great driver and shifts like a demon, but still no dct.

Ya cts-v's are no damn joke. Stupid fast with simple mods

Ya when its flashed i will be looking at the bmw's tailights lol
but i completely agree nothing like our beasts sound

Leec33

Yes we definitely were at the same event! Good meeting you too, car looked immaculate, C63 coupes are a rare breed, glad to see another one look soo good!

BK63amg

I dunno...these M4s are very quick. I ran a bonestock 2015 M3 at a roll event a few months ago and it walked me up top pretty convincingly. I have a 2012 PP coupe.

avery.whss

get a tune or be more agressive on your car..i walked a stage 2 m3 a few months ago no problems and I'm N/A, drive your benz like you stole it..mines a 09 with the old transmission too

Leec33

I dunno....? Lol

Yes they are quick forsure, probably the difference of the weistec tune that gave me and you the different results considering I have a 2012 PP coupe as well.

Jons95c36amg

Hmm interesting.. I ran a c63 507 and it was close. But he ran his friends 15 m4 Dct. The M4 got walked good. Maybe there is a flaw with some M4s?

I am Jeff

People rag on the old 7 speed trannies, but my tech friends are telling me that they are more durable. He's seen quite a few mct trannies come in with slipping clutches.