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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 03:36 AM
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Apologies in advance if this has been answered before. I searched but did not find.

Can someone tell me if the brake pads for a p30/p31 car are different than the standard car?

I just ordered some Porterfield pads and the supplier didn't ask me if I had the performance pack model so I assumed it is the same. It's got me thinking now though.

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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 04:30 AM
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Hmmm, I'm a little surprised. I thought they were the same but I checked for P31 (2010) and it shows a different part number and price:

https://www.parts.com/index.cfm?fuse...3-%20Liter-GAS

Of course that doesn't necessarily mean one wouldn't work in the other...it seems they do based on conventional wisdom here.

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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 07:07 AM
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They are the same size so the porterfields will work on any c63. The difference was the p30/p31 pads use a more aggressive compound than the standard c63.


I have the porterfields on my p31 and they are very nice, they work well but they don't squeak at all unlike the stock pads that drove me nuts!
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Exhibit13
They are the same size so the porterfields will work on any c63. The difference was the p30/p31 pads use a more aggressive compound than the standard c63.


I have the porterfields on my p31 and they are very nice, they work well but they don't squeak at all unlike the stock pads that drove me nuts!

how about dust ? thanks
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 08:54 AM
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Yes they have different part numbers. But they are interchangeable.
As mentioned the difference resides in the compound used. No matter which OEM pads you will go for they will be dustier than aftermarket product.
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by aussie e55
how about dust ? thanks


there is less dust compared to OEM
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 07:54 PM
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Great to know. Thanks for all your input. I'm looking forward to less dust and noise. Oh and also the savings from not having to buy OEM.
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by t4orce
Great to know. Thanks for all your input. I'm looking forward to less dust and noise. Oh and also the savings from not having to buy OEM.


no worries, glad to help. I just went through this all a few months back. I love the brakes on this car but the stock pads were horrible. Super dusty and squeaking so bad, got people turning thier heads for the wrong reasons. The Porterfield's perform a little bit better than OEM pads too I feel.
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by t4orce
Great to know. Thanks for all your input. I'm looking forward to less dust and noise. Oh and also the savings from not having to buy OEM.
this this and this. i'm so sick of the dust. good thing my (stock) wheels have Opticoat for protection so the dust comes off easily but it's annoying how quickly it builds up again.
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 08:23 AM
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Try RB's ET500 pads - Low dust and no squeak guaranteed.

Front: http://www.racingbrake.com/RB-ET500-.../pd1291-35.htm

Rear: http://www.racingbrake.com/Brake-Pad...1373-33-01.htm

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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 09:41 AM
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I don't understand how a pad can generate less dust. If the dust and pad breakdown are related directly to stopping power, and pad and disc composition, if you switch to a pad that generates less dust I'd think something else would have to give. Does this increase wear on the disc? Or is the difference just in the qualities of the pad and dust generated (in other words it's less likely to stick to wheels, or dissipates better, etc.)?
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different pads are made of different compounds. Each manufacture has thier own "recipe" if you will, some better than others. Just like any other product cuts are made in research, quality and performance by some brands to favor a lower price point.


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I don't understand how a pad can generate less dust. If the dust and pad breakdown are related directly to stopping power, and pad and disc composition, if you switch to a pad that generates less dust I'd think something else would have to give. Does this increase wear on the disc? Or is the difference just in the qualities of the pad and dust generated (in other words it's less likely to stick to wheels, or dissipates better, etc.)?
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 07:28 PM
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Having fitted the Porterfield pads and used them for about a week or so I can vouch for less dust, no noise and same feel/performance as OEM.

I can put up with the dust but the noise and squealing of the OEM drove me nuts plus it was embarrassing when pulling up to lights or stops. Detracted from the pops and gurgles.
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 03:22 PM
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brake pad recommendations

wondered what advice i might get on replacement pads on my c63. There are OEM pads whick are expensive, there are EBC pads, red and yellow available for this car, and Centric makes cheap pads and what they call OEM replacement pads which they claim are OEM material spec. I have done a lot of brake work on my past cars and know that what the pads cost and how they work and last can vary quite a bit. What i am after is a good pad that will brake as good as OEM, without spending OEM money. any suggestions?
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 03:50 PM
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Do a search and you'll get your answer - and you'll find that this very thread you've just posted has given you the most common recommendations: RB's ET500 or Porterfield R4S.
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Phorte
Do a search and you'll get your answer - and you'll find that this very thread you've just posted has given you the most common recommendations: RB's ET500 or Porterfield R4S.


what he said!
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Exhibit13
no worries, glad to help. I just went through this all a few months back. I love the brakes on this car but the stock pads were horrible. Super dusty and squeaking so bad, got people turning thier heads for the wrong reasons. The Porterfield's perform a little bit better than OEM pads too I feel.
I second everything Exhibit says. He is spot on.

About this issue in this thread, anyways.
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 09:50 PM
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I second everything Exhibit says. He is spot on.

About this issue in this thread, anyways.
Anyone ever get the steering shimmies when braking after a bit of time. I find this always happens when I dont put in stock pads and disks even though there is plenty of life left in the pads and rotors. They might be cheaper but I end up swapping them out more often than stock.
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no issues at all. If I had known how much better these pads (Porterfield) were I would have changed to them the day after I bought the car. The swap was super simple and for the cost I couldn't be happier.


Originally Posted by Gerry_M
Anyone ever get the steering shimmies when braking after a bit of time. I find this always happens when I dont put in stock pads and disks even though there is plenty of life left in the pads and rotors. They might be cheaper but I end up swapping them out more often than stock.
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I second everything Exhibit says. He is spot on.

About this issue in this thread, anyways.


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Anyone ever get the steering shimmies when braking after a bit of time. I find this always happens when I dont put in stock pads and disks even though there is plenty of life left in the pads and rotors. They might be cheaper but I end up swapping them out more often than stock.
No. I have purchased brake parts that were cheaper in terms of price, but never in terms of quality. I have a heavy, high horsepower vehicle so I make sure that if I do anything to the brakes it is an upgrade. Upgrading for less than MB prices is made easier by the fact that I have a P30. I would refer you to the ACG thread re brake parts:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...-packages.html
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Originally Posted by 604 C63
No. I have purchased brake parts that were cheaper in terms of price, but never in terms of quality. I have a heavy, high horsepower vehicle so I make sure that if I do anything to the brakes it is an upgrade. Upgrading for less than MB prices is made easier by the fact that I have a P30. I would refer you to the ACG thread re brake parts:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...-packages.html
Unfortunately or fortunately, I dont have a P30... so its hard to justify these prices given MB sells my rotors at $150/piece
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