Next Car? - Cayman GT4
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2014 E63 AMG Wagon, 2011 Porsche Spyder, 2014 C7 Stingray, VW TDI Cup Street Edition
they don't compare
If you haven't owned and tracked a 911 GT3 from any year you cannot possibly understand what these cars are about. First of all the specialty cars including Cayman R, Boxster Spyder, any GT3 from 2004 to current do hold their value. I cannot think of any other cars you can put 15,000 track miles on and sell it for what you paid or more and have so much fun. The GT4 will be a great car also.
All the AMG cars are great, I love my E63s wagon, but serve a different purpose, even though I can't wait to drive the new GTS on a track!
All the AMG cars are great, I love my E63s wagon, but serve a different purpose, even though I can't wait to drive the new GTS on a track!
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Well, this certainly got me thinking...
https://mbworld.org/articles/make-gi...cedes-porsche/
https://mbworld.org/articles/make-gi...cedes-porsche/
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Well, this certainly got me thinking...
https://mbworld.org/articles/make-gi...cedes-porsche/
https://mbworld.org/articles/make-gi...cedes-porsche/
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I almost pulled the trigger on a 981 Cayman S before I bought the BS. The handling was sublime, exhaust note intoxicating, and I can only imagine what it's like in the GT4. The ride was also surprisingly compliant and refined, but I'm certain that the GT4 will be far more raw in nature.
To me, this GT4 addresses most of the issues on the S, mainly lack of power and exclusivity. It is going to be insanely expensive, but I think it's worth it given the amount of quality stuffed into this package. I think the notion of Porsches being overpriced definitely comes from the fact that their prices have risen drastically above avg. joe expectations, compounded by their MSRP that totally misrepresents their actual pricing.
To me, this GT4 addresses most of the issues on the S, mainly lack of power and exclusivity. It is going to be insanely expensive, but I think it's worth it given the amount of quality stuffed into this package. I think the notion of Porsches being overpriced definitely comes from the fact that their prices have risen drastically above avg. joe expectations, compounded by their MSRP that totally misrepresents their actual pricing.
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2012 C63 AMG BS, 2010 DUCATI 1198S
All I know is I've owned a brand new c63 coupe for 2 years. I just recently test drove a 2014 cayman S. I was blown away. The sound, the handling, the response of the engine, the transmission, build quality....all better than the c63. The cayman S, GTS, gt4 are such exciting cars. Also a better daily driver and uses less gas. C63 advantages: Slightly more pull, and more room. If I could turn back time....
I test drove a 2014 Caymen S last week and felt exactly the same. My Black Series has been a blast and is a special car in it's own right, but I'm at a point where I'm wanting to switch brands, and Porsche has been getting my attention. This new GT4 might be the next one for me, and if I can't get an allocation, I think I'd be happy with a Cayman GTS.
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C63 AMG 507 Edition
Its done. Order is in and I have I confirmed allocation. Delivery date to be confirmed, but should be this year. 
Have decided I will keep the 507 for occasional family duties as well (normally use GF's car for this, but sometimes this won't work out).
V8 muscle some days and V6 precision others. I can't wait!
Have decided I will keep the 507 for occasional family duties as well (normally use GF's car for this, but sometimes this won't work out).
V8 muscle some days and V6 precision others. I can't wait!
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Its done. Order is in and I have I confirmed allocation. Delivery date to be confirmed, but should be this year.
Have decided I will keep the 507 for occasional family duties as well (normally use GF's car for this, but sometimes this won't work out).
V8 muscle some days and V6 precision others. I can't wait!
Have decided I will keep the 507 for occasional family duties as well (normally use GF's car for this, but sometimes this won't work out).
V8 muscle some days and V6 precision others. I can't wait!
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So you'd rather buy a turbo over a G for the same price?
Forget the G, just remember your buying a VW at the end of the day. And if you were ponying up for a gt3 or turbo, you'd have a car that looks exactly like it for 60k. IE- regular carrera's, caymans etc. That imo, is a huge turnoff.
I live in south florida, i'm well aware of porsche and the exotics market. People will surely buy what they want, and i understand that, but for getting my money's worth, my money won't be given to an overpriced P-car.
Forget the G, just remember your buying a VW at the end of the day. And if you were ponying up for a gt3 or turbo, you'd have a car that looks exactly like it for 60k. IE- regular carrera's, caymans etc. That imo, is a huge turnoff.
I live in south florida, i'm well aware of porsche and the exotics market. People will surely buy what they want, and i understand that, but for getting my money's worth, my money won't be given to an overpriced P-car.
Firstly, comparing a new car to a used car is asinine. All cars lose a bunch of their value in the first two years.
2nd, hell yes I'd buy a turbo over a gallardo. The turbo is not only faster, more agile, more useable, and better assembled, it also doesn't shout "look at me". P.S. with the release of the huracan, a Gallardo is old news.
It might be overpriced to you, but the market says its priced just fine.
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Typical south florida, all about appearance.
Firstly, comparing a new car to a used car is asinine. All cars lose a bunch of their value in the first two years.
2nd, hell yes I'd buy a turbo over a gallardo. The turbo is not only faster, more agile, more useable, and better assembled, it also doesn't shout "look at me". P.S. with the release of the huracan, a Gallardo is old news.
It might be overpriced to you, but the market says its priced just fine.
Firstly, comparing a new car to a used car is asinine. All cars lose a bunch of their value in the first two years.
2nd, hell yes I'd buy a turbo over a gallardo. The turbo is not only faster, more agile, more useable, and better assembled, it also doesn't shout "look at me". P.S. with the release of the huracan, a Gallardo is old news.
It might be overpriced to you, but the market says its priced just fine.
then again, you are much more experienced that I am
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I test drove a 2014 Caymen S last week and felt exactly the same. My Black Series has been a blast and is a special car in it's own right, but I'm at a point where I'm wanting to switch brands, and Porsche has been getting my attention. This new GT4 might be the next one for me, and if I can't get an allocation, I think I'd be happy with a Cayman GTS.
Congrats OP!
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Got the C63 instead.
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Thanks. I'm pretty hyped about it. Got the phone call today to confirm July build and September delivery.
Will definitely come back with feedback.
Thanks. Allocations of these cars are definitely a problem. Some guys on rennlist say they have had deposits down since last year and still no allocation. There is a problem with a shortage of Light Weight Bucket seats though, so people who don't want these (like me), seem to have jumped the queue. Will be kind of nice to have quite a rare car though.
Will definitely come back with feedback.
Thanks. Allocations of these cars are definitely a problem. Some guys on rennlist say they have had deposits down since last year and still no allocation. There is a problem with a shortage of Light Weight Bucket seats though, so people who don't want these (like me), seem to have jumped the queue. Will be kind of nice to have quite a rare car though.
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Thanks. I'm pretty hyped about it. Got the phone call today to confirm July build and September delivery.
Will definitely come back with feedback.
Thanks. Allocations of these cars are definitely a problem. Some guys on rennlist say they have had deposits down since last year and still no allocation. There is a problem with a shortage of Light Weight Bucket seats though, so people who don't want these (like me), seem to have jumped the queue. Will be kind of nice to have quite a rare car though.
Will definitely come back with feedback.
Thanks. Allocations of these cars are definitely a problem. Some guys on rennlist say they have had deposits down since last year and still no allocation. There is a problem with a shortage of Light Weight Bucket seats though, so people who don't want these (like me), seem to have jumped the queue. Will be kind of nice to have quite a rare car though.
sometimes the wait can be tough; may you take it in stride
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C63 AMG 507 Edition
And its arrived!
Some not very awesome photos of it, but these are all I have at the moment.
Its a completely different car to the C63, but I'm loving every minute of it.
Manual transmission - tick
Phenomenal traction - tick
Handling and feel - tick
Awesome exhaust - tick
Its an amazing car, very happy I was able to get one!
Some not very awesome photos of it, but these are all I have at the moment.
Its a completely different car to the C63, but I'm loving every minute of it.
Manual transmission - tick
Phenomenal traction - tick
Handling and feel - tick
Awesome exhaust - tick
Its an amazing car, very happy I was able to get one!
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Thanks everyone.
Its awesome to drive. It doesn't have the torque of the C63, so you need to wind it up to get to the power band - so its a very 'active' drive. Cornering is amazing, its got so much grip and the beautiful inherant balance of a mid engine car. Its naturally aspirated, and with the sports exhaust switched on, you get this angry screaming wail at max throttle / rpms (I think its louder than the C63 exhaust at max rpms - thats saying something!). Add to this that you row your own gears, and I couldn't hope for much more from a driving experience.
Lol. I'll try to do that!
It was actually scraped at delivery. Because its so low, Porsche have designed that bottom plastic piece essentially as a consumable. Its around $200 to replace, and can be done yourself with two screws with the rest clipping in place. Because I noticed it was scraped when I picked the car up, they have ordered me a new one at their cost - so I'm using this one to learn all anti-scrape techniques whilst waiting for the new one to arrive.
Its awesome to drive. It doesn't have the torque of the C63, so you need to wind it up to get to the power band - so its a very 'active' drive. Cornering is amazing, its got so much grip and the beautiful inherant balance of a mid engine car. Its naturally aspirated, and with the sports exhaust switched on, you get this angry screaming wail at max throttle / rpms (I think its louder than the C63 exhaust at max rpms - thats saying something!). Add to this that you row your own gears, and I couldn't hope for much more from a driving experience.
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