Bardman

Just announced:

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/r...04-135jwp.html

This ticks a lot of boxes for me:

- Manual
- Naturally aspirated
- Handling and balance of Cayman with power of 911
- Looks hot (love the wheels - and with 295's in the rear will not have traction issues)

I had the original Cayman S which I loved, but it lacked a little grunt. They have finally put a decent engine in one.

It won't have that V8 note, but the Cayman GTS sounds great, so I think this will also be special.

xxaarraa

I went from a C55 to a 911 C4S and now back to a C63. Really enjoyed the 911, and I am sure the Cayman GT4 will be a great car too, Porsche does make very engaging cars.

But I am pretty sure it is stupid expensive for what you get. That always irritated me about Porsche - that they charge such a premium for what the product is actually worth. Check the options sheet for any Porsche and my blood boils.

chrisridebike8

It's supposed to start just under $87k. I know I want one!

hyperion667

dump that ugly spoiler and I'm in

BLKROKT

If that car had existed when I bought the C last May, I would be driving it and not the C.
Ticks every box for me, and I loved my 996TT.

alexmtl

What a gorgeous looking car !

dchl21

like c better V8 roar

CarHopper

Here come all of us Porsche people through the cracks.

I didn't much care for my 996tt because it was so heavily modified and a pain in the *** to drive daily. But, for some reason, I miss it every single day.

While I like this car, I would really want to get back into a turbo. Maybe when the 991's come down

rentzington

at least this looks better than the early gen caymans, i just couldnt get used to the look on those.

jvanbrecht

I like it.. but I will wait for typical Porsche depreciation and get one used

xxaarraa

Porsche cars hold their value incredibly well, you'll be waiting a long time. You might be thinking of the Cayenne.

dchl21

that is so true... only cayenne gets cheap. everything else just holds value like crazy

AMG6.3

Very cool car just not fast enough for price tag

PeterUbers

+1000, but a year old 997 turbo can take a nice drop in price from it's $170k sticker

...the bigger they are...

solekeeper

i feel the same. porsche is grossly overpriced. for the price of their turbo, i can get a pre-owned gallardo.

and this car looks way too similar to a gt3, no thought went into designing this car at all. And if i'm paying 150k+ for a gt3, i don't want it looking like a cayman. jesus christ, really?

xxaarraa

Yeah, agree. But Porsche will tell you (and judging by the resale values on their sports cars, most customers seem to agree) that a Turbo S 911 is much more usable, everyday-friendly and reliable than a Gallardo, and just as fast. And they'd be right. I drove my C4S right through the winter, through walmart parking lots, through doggy daycare runs, and hardly ever scraped the nose, hardly ever broke down. Having the little two seats in the back added a lot of value to me, for my dog and to carry stuff.



Having the engine over the driven wheels really does give them an acceleration and traction advantage. 911s are always faster than the on-paper specs would suggest.

I'll stop talking on both sides of my mouth, and go back to "Porsches are overpriced" haha

solekeeper

i agree that the porsche is more dd capable.

BUT, i personally would be able to dd a G. Down here in south florida it's common. i personally wouldn't, as i would have 2 cars, however. You definitely won't see my dropping 160k on a gt3 when i can get a Verde ithica drop top G for 125-140.... hmmmmm yum

norb

Meh. I still like my stealth C63 sedan. That wing screams, hey look at me!

xxaarraa

Two very different cars. Comparing a C63 to a Cayman is like comparing Rock and Roll to Beetoven. Different genres, different purposes.

It's OK to like your C63 sedan, and also like a Cayman. Doesn't have to be one or the other

alpharabbit

$85k base price but after adding heated seats will likely cost in the $140k region.

xxaarraa

No heated seats only bring it up to $120k, adding a rear windscreen wiper is what pushes it to $140k.

norb

I can like my C63 and not like a Cayman GT4 because that's freedom. BTW I also have a 993.

350Zed

CarHopper

Let's play a game. Do you think the all mighty Porsche 911 GT3 RS is a fast car?

...Well this just beat it around "the ring"

...For a fraction of the price.


Comparing a p-car like this to our c63's is pointless. Completely different ends of the automotive world. As for holding their value, they do it quite well. Sure, you can go out there and search for the cheapest 911 turbo on the internet and say they can be had for xyz. However, to have one actually worth owning you'll still pay quite a bit.

Unlike this car where as soon as you drive it off the lot you might as well take that $10k depreciation hit immediately.

norb

That's the 997 GT3RS it "beat" not the new 991 GT3.