Mr Red

Haha, well you better let Mercedes-AMG know that before they make a huge mistake & waste their time & effort releasing the new c63.

trueblue_ips

C63sgt, the c450 has sports suspension and racing seats. It also has red Seat belts.
I'm not saying the c450 is as quick as the c63. But as an overall package, speed, running costs, look, luxury feel, price etc it is a far better option than the hardcore but impractical c63.

norb

LOL, the C450 is a "true" AMG? Then why is it built in Alabama?

C63TSgt

Yeah, come sit in my c63 seats and tell me they are the same. LOL Whoa! Red seat belts?!?! That's crazy! It must be a race car...
If you need a practical car get the c450 by all means, if you can't handle the hardcore it's just not for you. Running costs are not going to be significantly less I promise. It's all about what you want. If you can't justify the cost difference for the extra performance and don't want it hardcore then why even bother commenting on it. Cool, the c63 is not for you, don't buy it. But there is no disputing the w205 c63 will beat the c450 in every category. Oh, is the c450 one man on engine? no? then it's not really an AMG, it's an AMG packaged car, exactly like the m-sport 3 series...noticed you totally didn't respond to that part of my reply. Because we are right. It's the same thing. OK, done feeding the troll.

Rolf de Graaff

I allways wanted als car with red seat belts......that's the best mod to make it go fast

amanuuh

the c450 doesn't have racing seats....
the c450 has a sports suspension but then again a Toyota Camry has a sport suspension. Doesn't mean its the same suspension that the C63 has.

4.9 seconds isn't fast. Thats not even close to C63 territory. Thats like 335i/435i territory. Red Seat belts don't mean **** you could add red seat belts to a smart car.

GTFO of here with this bs thread. C450 is not in the same class as a W204 or a W205 C63

Worth the wait

Wait a minute guys.
It seems I owe the OP and apology.....

I'm sorry, I had no idea the C450 was equipped with red seat belts.
That truly changes everything. I am kind of disappointed that my E55 doesn't have red seat belts. I mean, all these years I thought it was an AMG. I feel foolish for letting MB pull the wool over my eyes!
I was just on the website and checked out the "true AMG" C450 AMG Sport hyper sedan.
I must have one now.

Only question now is do I mis-represent the E55 as an AMG when I am trying to sell it, or maybe I should retro-fit it with red seat belts so I don't con somebody the way MB got me?

Maybe the OP can give me advice - he really seems like a very smart, highly educated and distinguished older gentlemen.

Worth the wait

Exhibit13

Is that the new AMG conversion kit? Because you know, sport seats and red seatbelts turn any standard Mercedes into an AMG!

edwardsflight33

Gonna get them for my wife's car. She always wanted a GLK 250 AMG Bluetec

rentzington

red seatbelts!? SOLD!

badm

I'll take a C63 any year over the C450amg underling car. Their's no real comparsion between the two cars . Some "Idiot" will pull up to a real AMG and rev his engine and than the Real AMG will rev its engine than it will be over before a race even happens.. It's happens to me all time, Save your money buy the "REAL THING" . Mercedes just trying to sell more cars and using a old American Car company gimmick . "FAKE HOTROD"

trueblue_ips

Not just red seat belts. It has red stiching on the leather interior too. Plus AMG floor mats etc. it's Mercedes affordable AMG. Finally, all this saying a c63 would trounce it. C450 0-60 in 4.9 secs. C63 does it in 4.5. A few tenths. Anyway, a new c450 would beat a c63 that's a few years old as car's performance deteriorates with age.
I'm not bashing the c63, far from it. I was just asking an innocent question about how the new c450 may or may not impact the c63. It will take some of its sales so maybe MB will need to make it as luxorious as the c450 to keep pace.

edwardsflight33

As others have said you can't compare the w205 C450 to the w204 C63 as far as interior. Most will agree that the new generation has a nicer interior. You have to compare it to the new C63 with the 4.0. Since it is based on the same car the 450 is, it will have a nicer interior too. I'm sure they will throw some tweaks and an AMG logo here and there. Anybody who wants a true beast will still go for the C63. the question is what will the CLA 45 do against the C450. I can see those two being cross shopped much more frequently.

norb

I actually like my C63's basic interior design. Very honest and straightforward. Kinda like the classic MB designs of the 80's and early 90's. The new MB's are so over designed that its almost not a MB anymore! I guess I'm officially an old fart.

Roswell

This is the reason why this forum is going down, too many spammers & too many young kids hanging around nowadays. LOL

Don't be surprised to see OP buying a used w204 C63 & modding it with APC parts & Rota wheels cuz he will realized the w205 C450 AMG is overpriced.

Mort

^^^^ The truth is out....

I reported this guy as a Troll...LOL

rentzington

and dont forget buying all the badging and body kit to make it look like a black series

trueblue_ips

Sorry norb, but if I'm spending that much money on a car I want a luxury interior. Simple and basic is a euphemism for bad. The c63 has a bad interior.
I honestly don't see how MB can justify such a huge price gap given that overall the c450 is a better all round car. As quick? No. Better value and more rounded? Yes.

Bimmer777

I can't believe that people are entertaining this obvious troll.

Red seatbelts hahaha...that was a good one, i'll have to admit.

trueblue_ips

Bimmer, obvious troll? No need for insults. It is a legitimate question.
You c63 drivers can poison the planet. The c450 is a better car than the w204 c63. Fact.

Sidv22

OMG! it is true

Outside, the C450 AMG remains fairly close to the C400 with the Sport package and its AMG appearance touches. The main difference is the "diamond" grille and the divided exhaust tips left and right. High-gloss black exterior trim is a no-cost option. Inside, there are sport seats, several AMG badges, and optional red seatbelts. Overall, though, the differences between the C400 and the C450 AMG are much smaller than those between the C450 AMG and the AMG C63; this can’t be unintentional, as the C450 and the C400 will be sold alongside one another for only a year before the former supplants the latter. Clearly, Mercedes is keen to protect the identity of the full-fledged AMG vehicles, even as it adds this new, intermediate trim level.

kuba.95

The new C63 also has better fuel economy then the C400 (still trying to figure out how that's possible lol) so I'm quite positive it'll also have better fuel economy then the C450.

zibby43

Listen troll face.

The W204 C63 (that's the current one, not the new one) hits 60 in 3.7 seconds.

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.6 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 14.0 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 4.3 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.5 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.7 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.1 sec @ 120 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 174 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 161 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.91 g

Source: http://www.caranddriver.com/mercedes-benz/c63-amg

That's over a second faster than the C450.

The C450 can't even sniff those numbers.

Not to mention inferior handling and braking.

trueblue_ips

Without wanting to upset any defensive c63 owners further, is this thread exactly why MB are treading on thin ice releasing the c450? Punters who are lucky enough to be able to afford a genuine AMG car feel it's unfair that MB exploit the brand for mass market? It makes sense for MB to do it, in the short term at least. But I can understand AMG owners feeling a bit cheated.