C63 AMG (W204) 2008 - 2015

Flapping noise 25-30mph... baseball card in spokes?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 02-18-2015, 12:56 PM
  #1  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
HBC350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,075
Received 15 Likes on 14 Posts
'18 C63A Cabriolet
Flapping noise 25-30mph... baseball card in spokes?

My 507 Coupe just started making this strange noise this morning. Between 25-30 mph, light throttle, I get this sound from the right side, mid car, that sounds like a baseball card flapping through bicycle spokes. Goes away over 30 and can't hear it under 25. Looked under the car for anything like a plastic bag, etc. and all is clear. Anyone else ever have something like this?
Old 02-18-2015, 04:42 PM
  #2  
Member
 
Rolf de Graaff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: the netherlands
Posts: 105
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C 63 AMG PP
I have a P30, mine does the same, thought it maybe had to do something with the lsd?!
Old 02-18-2015, 05:23 PM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
HBC350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,075
Received 15 Likes on 14 Posts
'18 C63A Cabriolet
Originally Posted by Rolf de Graaff
I have a P30, mine does the same, thought it maybe had to do something with the lsd?!
hmm, something to think about. I drove the car around for a while and it stopped doing it after having done it for about 20 minutes since cold start.
Old 02-18-2015, 06:22 PM
  #4  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
rentzington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
2010 C63 P30
Have you checked for a baseball card in your spokes?

Sorry had to
Old 02-18-2015, 07:22 PM
  #5  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
m a x i m u s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,165
Received 57 Likes on 53 Posts
C63 AMG P30 *EuroCharged*| Porsche Cayenne | Buell XB9SX
Originally Posted by rentzington
Have you checked for a baseball card in your spokes? Sorry had to
Lol
Old 02-18-2015, 09:29 PM
  #6  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
HBC350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,075
Received 15 Likes on 14 Posts
'18 C63A Cabriolet
Originally Posted by rentzington
Have you checked for a baseball card in your spokes?

Sorry had to
Lol. Yes, I checked.

I am now so tuned into the noise that I can't ignore it. Especially since the dealer recently cured the other two noises coming from the rear shelf and the driver's side power window switches.
Old 02-18-2015, 10:01 PM
  #7  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
CarHopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NY
Posts: 6,307
Received 846 Likes on 594 Posts
E63S | X5
Did you actually play around with the underbody panels? Or just look for debris?

Those plastic fasteners for the panels throughout the car are a joke and will likely fall out over time. Then there could be a sweet spot mph range where there airflow is just right that the panel starts to flap away. When you're going slow enough there isn't enough force to get it going and then when you're going too fast there is enough pressure or airflow under the car to keep it from flapping.
The following users liked this post:
ev4530 (07-05-2016)
Old 02-18-2015, 10:33 PM
  #8  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
rentzington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
2010 C63 P30
Originally Posted by PurpleHeartAMG
Did you actually play around with the underbody panels? Or just look for debris?

Those plastic fasteners for the panels throughout the car are a joke and will likely fall out over time. Then there could be a sweet spot mph range where there airflow is just right that the panel starts to flap away. When you're going slow enough there isn't enough force to get it going and then when you're going too fast there is enough pressure or airflow under the car to keep it from flapping.
Yup, this happened on my truck kept hearing a noise when driving drove me nuts! Turns out the plastic mud covers where getting just enough Air Force to hit the body. Lots can happen when speed is added esp. On highway
Old 02-18-2015, 11:58 PM
  #9  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
HBC350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,075
Received 15 Likes on 14 Posts
'18 C63A Cabriolet
Originally Posted by PurpleHeartAMG
Did you actually play around with the underbody panels? Or just look for debris?

Those plastic fasteners for the panels throughout the car are a joke and will likely fall out over time. Then there could be a sweet spot mph range where there airflow is just right that the panel starts to flap away. When you're going slow enough there isn't enough force to get it going and then when you're going too fast there is enough pressure or airflow under the car to keep it from flapping.
I just heard it for the first time today so I haven't really had a chance to get under there and look around. Having been a dealer tech for 12 years "back in the day" I have a nack for figuring out noise concerns. This one, because of the way it comes on and the speed at which it appears, just doesn't sound like a loose plastic panel but who knows. Could be anything, I guess.

I really want to get the rear wheels off the ground and run it up to 25-30 and see what I get.
Old 02-19-2015, 04:07 PM
  #10  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
papashango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Alberta
Posts: 1,391
Received 26 Likes on 17 Posts
This and that.
I actually had a similar experience a few months ago but that noise was quite loud. I thought it was some metal body part hitting the road or something. But it literally went away after 10 minutes and then I looked under the car and couldn't find anything. I chalked it up to a rock or something stuck in the wheel for a bit. No idea though but as long as it doesn't come back, I guess I don't care.
Old 02-19-2015, 11:38 PM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
roadtalontsi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,093
Received 286 Likes on 184 Posts
10 C six trizzle
after market wheels? 3 piece coming apart? incorrect size lug bolts? parking brake internals? probably one of the above.
Old 02-20-2015, 01:02 AM
  #12  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
604 C63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,818
Received 393 Likes on 272 Posts
2012 E550 Cabrio
Its the sound of $100 bills being ripped out of your wallet.

In all seriousness, I have developed a sound just like this. It sounds like its from the interior of the car and down the side of the seats or something. I even wondered if it was like air bubbles coming out of the lumbar support but that of course is mechanical. I have stared down the side of the seats and poked around in there a lot and havent been able to find even a clue. Nor have I been able to come up with a consistent set of circumstances for when it happens. Totally interested in hearing any ideas.

Until then Im thinking hundies.
Old 02-20-2015, 09:01 AM
  #13  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
rentzington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
2010 C63 P30
Originally Posted by 604 C63
Its the sound of $100 bills being ripped out of your wallet.

In all seriousness, I have developed a sound just like this. It sounds like its from the interior of the car and down the side of the seats or something. I even wondered if it was like air bubbles coming out of the lumbar support but that of course is mechanical. I have stared down the side of the seats and poked around in there a lot and havent been able to find even a clue. Nor have I been able to come up with a consistent set of circumstances for when it happens. Totally interested in hearing any ideas.

Until then Im thinking hundies.


this may sound crazy but the wifes mustang kept having this weird almost high pitched hum on the highway over 60mph in the windshield area. Everytime like clockwork it would start, and i traced back what was done recently and she had changed the wiper blades.

Get it a lil faster at about 80 and the blade started jumping, swapped em out problem solved.

Sometimes it can be something super simple.....sometimes not.
Old 02-20-2015, 10:47 AM
  #14  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
HBC350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,075
Received 15 Likes on 14 Posts
'18 C63A Cabriolet
Originally Posted by roadtalontsi
after market wheels? 3 piece coming apart? incorrect size lug bolts? parking brake internals? probably one of the above.
None of the above. Totally stock. 7K miles.

The fact that it does it only between 25-30 is what's got me baffled. That speed is too low for any wind-related issues.
Old 02-20-2015, 11:26 AM
  #15  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
rentzington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
2010 C63 P30
Originally Posted by HBC350
None of the above. Totally stock. 7K miles.

The fact that it does it only between 25-30 is what's got me baffled. That speed is too low for any wind-related issues.

its the car telling you to go faster.
Old 02-20-2015, 11:33 AM
  #16  
Newbie
 
JosephC63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C63 AMG
Lifters, my guess.

I started my 63 after 3 months, same sound, came from right side of the engine. gone after 10minutes, not happened since (500+ miles driven)
Old 02-20-2015, 11:39 AM
  #17  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
HBC350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,075
Received 15 Likes on 14 Posts
'18 C63A Cabriolet
Originally Posted by JosephC63
Lifters, my guess.

I started my 63 after 3 months, same sound, came from right side of the engine. gone after 10minutes, not happened since (500+ miles driven)

Not coming from engine area. Sounds like it's right under the passenger seat or a little further back.
Old 02-20-2015, 12:18 PM
  #18  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
m a x i m u s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,165
Received 57 Likes on 53 Posts
C63 AMG P30 *EuroCharged*| Porsche Cayenne | Buell XB9SX
Check to see if you have something stuck in your tire tread, like a pebble or even a nail.
Old 02-20-2015, 01:18 PM
  #19  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
604 C63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,818
Received 393 Likes on 272 Posts
2012 E550 Cabrio
Originally Posted by HBC350
Not coming from engine area. Sounds like it's right under the passenger seat or a little further back.
Exactly
Old 02-20-2015, 02:56 PM
  #20  
Member
 
Rolf de Graaff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: the netherlands
Posts: 105
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C 63 AMG PP
in my car it comes around 25-30mph, in 2nd and 3th gear both..... Most of the time when coming out of a corner. That's why I think it has to do with the lsd but Ik can't explain that technically
Old 05-16-2015, 02:02 AM
  #21  
Member
 
Rolf de Graaff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: the netherlands
Posts: 105
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C 63 AMG PP
Did you ever find out what was causing this sound?


Originally Posted by HBC350
My 507 Coupe just started making this strange noise this morning. Between 25-30 mph, light throttle, I get this sound from the right side, mid car, that sounds like a baseball card flapping through bicycle spokes. Goes away over 30 and can't hear it under 25. Looked under the car for anything like a plastic bag, etc. and all is clear. Anyone else ever have something like this?
Old 05-16-2015, 11:31 AM
  #22  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
HBC350's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,075
Received 15 Likes on 14 Posts
'18 C63A Cabriolet
Originally Posted by Rolf de Graaff
Did you ever find out what was causing this sound?
Nope. Still doing it, although it seems to not be as loud. Next routine service I'll mention it.
Old 05-16-2015, 12:47 PM
  #23  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
604 C63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,818
Received 393 Likes on 272 Posts
2012 E550 Cabrio
Mine stopped one day. Not sure when. Just sort of realized "hey, its not doing that anymore"

I think it was the sound of hundred dollar bills dropping out of my bank account and into MBs
Old 05-17-2015, 03:56 PM
  #24  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
abcut973's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Denham Springs,LA
Posts: 3,704
Received 19 Likes on 18 Posts
'12 C63 Black Series, '12 ML350 BlueTech
Did you ever put your car on jack stands and turn the wheels to see where the noise is coming from?
Could be coming from the LSD bearings
Old 05-17-2015, 10:15 PM
  #25  
Banned
 
avery.whss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,317
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
S550 on order
mine does this when i have the 18" on as a spare, i think it's to due with the LSD or something, because i have a 20" on the other side (i dont drive it much when i have the 1 18" on) but im pretty sure its LSD related


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Flapping noise 25-30mph... baseball card in spokes?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:36 PM.