c63 p31 vs oe tuned c63
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my tuned C63 put down 489.9 WHP and 470wtq with just a tune on stock airboxes ..I imagine it's pushing closer to 550whp now with the few other mods I've added..If I chuck on long tubes and a exhaust, it'll easily be at 600+ whp...honestly turbo's are cool and all but N/A all day long, theres nothing even special about turbos really..i've raced MANY turbo cars including a friends heavily modded R32 GTR and beaten them all, i've raced a 2007 S2 activeautowerk M3 also and pulled him
i said around 600whp if i added headers, and i've already posted the dyno sheet when i had my car dyno'd with just a tune..what don't you get, i had it dyno'd with a TUNE ONLY and it ran 486 WHP, since then i've added a exhaust, air intake, pulley and a few other things, i haven't gotten it dyno'd in like 1.5-2 years since
i said i have probably around 550whp now with the other mods ive done since i dyno'd, ive had a custom exhaust and some other things done since i've dyno'd it 2 years ago ...if i added headers i said it'd probably be close to 600whp
and im not a push over, if someone wants to call me and my friends a liar then their stupid as **** and don't even deserve an ounce of respect. it's that simple, i'm not going to let some human being try and belittle me
i provided PROOF and you guys seem to be blind or cannot read..not my problem
and nope, i know exactly what crank HP and WHP is, it's you retards who think a modern AMG has a 25%+ crank to WHP loss..not me, go online and find a converter and type in 562 CRANK HP and come back with the corrected WHP for the AMG, I'm going to guess it's roughly 450-470 WHP ...but yet some how 500WHP+ isn't "possible" with a custom exhaust, stright pipes, row boxes, pulley, and a few other engine mods...OK
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not my fault you guys live in cities with polluated air that makes your car run like junk, maybe go drive by a ocean once in awhile and see the difference with cold crisp air VS crappy garbage city air.
and im not a push over, if someone wants to call me and my friends a liar then their stupid as **** and don't even deserve an ounce of respect. it's that simple, i'm not going to let some human being try and belittle me
i provided PROOF and you guys seem to be blind or cannot read..not my problem
and nope, i know exactly what crank HP and WHP is, it's you retards who think a modern AMG has a 25%+ crank to WHP loss..not me, go online and find a converter and type in 562 CRANK HP and come back with the corrected WHP for the AMG, I'm going to guess it's roughly 450-470 WHP ...but yet some how 500WHP+ isn't "possible" with a custom exhaust, stright pipes, row boxes, pulley, and a few other engine mods...OK
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not my fault you guys live in cities with polluated air that makes your car run like junk, maybe go drive by a ocean once in awhile and see the difference with cold crisp air VS crappy garbage city air.
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Ummmmm.... don't mean to hijack here, just don't want the OP to get derailed with someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.
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Ummmmm.... don't mean to hijack here, just don't want the OP to get derailed with someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...015-m3-m4.html
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i mean theres atleast 10+ eurocharged threads at once about people just going crazy over it..then they whine about how they ran 340whp ..well what do you expect, it's a generic tune
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In every thread u change ur numbers man last month u made 550whp now back to 500whp lol stop embarrasing urself
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where did i claim it made 550whp exactly? i said..CLOSER, i never said "Oh no it's going to be 550whp dead on and everyones wrong" ..do you understand how words work?
Maybe you should go back to school and learn to read, it put down 489 with a off the shelf tune and ROW boxes, since then i had a custom tune / pulley / upgraded diff / oil air seperator
you do realize what a custom tune is right? you sit there for 2-3 hours with the tuner and a dyno and tweak the file..you do know that can be done?
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I imagine it's pushing closer to 550whp
where did i claim it made 550whp exactly? i said..CLOSER, i never said "Oh no it's going to be 550whp dead on and everyones wrong" ..do you understand how words work?
Maybe you should go back to school and learn to read, it put down 489 with a off the shelf tune and ROW boxes, since then i had a custom tune / pulley / upgraded diff / oil air seperator
you do realize what a custom tune is right? you sit there for 2-3 hours with the tuner and a dyno and tweak the file..you do know that can be done?
where did i claim it made 550whp exactly? i said..CLOSER, i never said "Oh no it's going to be 550whp dead on and everyones wrong" ..do you understand how words work?
Maybe you should go back to school and learn to read, it put down 489 with a off the shelf tune and ROW boxes, since then i had a custom tune / pulley / upgraded diff / oil air seperator
you do realize what a custom tune is right? you sit there for 2-3 hours with the tuner and a dyno and tweak the file..you do know that can be done?
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Please post dyno sheet lol... Pulley gives 10-12 whp tops. Upgraded diff= zero. Oil air separator= zero. You do realize your saying that your car is making more power then dads c63 and that had a full 3 inch exhaust with longtubes, renntech airbox, and heads and cams and that also was custom dyno tuned...........
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Anyone can say they have any mod
His exhaust is stock
C63 v5 downshift acceleration - YouTube
that's what 2nd cat delete sounds like
His exhaust is stock
C63 v5 downshift acceleration - YouTube
that's what 2nd cat delete sounds like
I have secondary cat delete and my car doesn't even sound half as good!!
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I have a pre FL P31, it apparently has a tune but no idea what tune is on it.
I've ran a stock FL P31 (I never had the cat delete either at the time), and I pulled away quite convincingly.
So that technically would mean you get some decent gains on a P31.
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Love to see what the results are. This "P31 Tuning" debate never ends up being resolved with so many conflicting opinions. I've been holding back from the V5 tune for the past year now because of this. Hard to justify $1000+ for little to nothing.
However the comment about the "generic tune" is rather correct. The variation between c63s are rather significant sometimes, and it would make sense that some cars will take the tune much better then others. But I'd rather not rely on luck. For those with the tune how dramatic is this increase in throttle sensitivity and response with gear changes? Do these improvements justify the tune even if it gives minimal gains?
However the comment about the "generic tune" is rather correct. The variation between c63s are rather significant sometimes, and it would make sense that some cars will take the tune much better then others. But I'd rather not rely on luck. For those with the tune how dramatic is this increase in throttle sensitivity and response with gear changes? Do these improvements justify the tune even if it gives minimal gains?
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I have a p31 with v5 and I think it was a waste of money, the only difference i notice is the throttle is now touchy. If you want your throttle remapped you can buy one of those generic boxes on eBay that gets wired in between the pedal and cost like $25. Save the money unless you have a base c63.
Love to see what the results are. This "P31 Tuning" debate never ends up being resolved with so many conflicting opinions. I've been holding back from the V5 tune for the past year now because of this. Hard to justify $1000+ for little to nothing.
However the comment about the "generic tune" is rather correct. The variation between c63s are rather significant sometimes, and it would make sense that some cars will take the tune much better then others. But I'd rather not rely on luck. For those with the tune how dramatic is this increase in throttle sensitivity and response with gear changes? Do these improvements justify the tune even if it gives minimal gains?
However the comment about the "generic tune" is rather correct. The variation between c63s are rather significant sometimes, and it would make sense that some cars will take the tune much better then others. But I'd rather not rely on luck. For those with the tune how dramatic is this increase in throttle sensitivity and response with gear changes? Do these improvements justify the tune even if it gives minimal gains?
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I have a p31 with v5 and I think it was a waste of money, the only difference i notice is the throttle is now touchy. If you want your throttle remapped you can buy one of those generic boxes on eBay that gets wired in between the pedal and cost like $25. Save the money unless you have a base c63.
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Thanks for the tip but I already had one
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I got ec v5 n throttle response changed alot not sure about power increase since i never got a chance to vbox.
I have issues with the handheld device it wont let me upload more than one file,basically if i reset it to new it only accepts one file,been in toucj with ec they tried fixing it to no luck.
I also got mhp lth catless with xpipe installed but only drove to the dealer with them installed on stock tune for pano roof clunk.
I did manage to upload the header file into my handheld n will report back when i get the car back next week
