Tuned/PP C63 vs. 2015 M3/M4
03-19-2015, 03:18 PM
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Tuned/PP C63 vs. 2015 M3/M4
Has anyone with a tune-only (or PP stock) C63 encountered one of these yet?
I am talking on a straight-line and from a 40mph/highway roll.
Just curious.
I am talking on a straight-line and from a 40mph/highway roll.
Just curious.
03-19-2015, 04:11 PM
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Not Yet, but im hoping too 
03-19-2015, 04:32 PM
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Same here. Took it to the dyno and it's putting 427whp/391wtq...which is not bad considering I drove for almost an hour to get there and didn't really have much time to cool down. 80F weather also (South FL).
03-19-2015, 05:10 PM
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I seen a vid of an F8X M3 putting the beating on a CBS.
So im curious to see what these bad boys can do with a solid tune.
Realistically 560 WHP is not on a daily driver MAP. That kind of power is only for a glory run on a Dyno.
So im curious to see what these bad boys can do with a solid tune.
Realistically 560 WHP is not on a daily driver MAP. That kind of power is only for a glory run on a Dyno.
03-19-2015, 05:48 PM
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I am aware of the fact turbo engines react better with mods. The shop where I tuned mine had a couple of M4s putting down 500+whp.
That being said, this is about trying to see if it could be even or perhaps an advantage over a stock F80/F82.
That being said, being that it is so easy to tune the F80/F82s, it might be hard to find a stock one.
That being said, this is about trying to see if it could be even or perhaps an advantage over a stock F80/F82.
That being said, being that it is so easy to tune the F80/F82s, it might be hard to find a stock one.
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03-19-2015, 07:07 PM
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I am aware of the fact turbo engines react better with mods. The shop where I tuned mine had a couple of M4s putting down 500+whp.
That being said, this is about trying to see if it could be even or perhaps an advantage over a stock F80/F82.
That being said, being that it is so easy to tune the F80/F82s, it might be hard to find a stock one.
That being said, this is about trying to see if it could be even or perhaps an advantage over a stock F80/F82.
That being said, being that it is so easy to tune the F80/F82s, it might be hard to find a stock one.
HP doesn't really mean much if you doesn't have the TQ to put it down, yeah yeah any car can have 500WHP big deal, but it's pathetic how many cars have 500WHP with like 350WTQ...thats a joke.
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03-19-2015, 07:43 PM
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my tuned C63 put down 489.9 WHP and 470wtq with just a tune on stock airboxes ..I imagine it's pushing closer to 550whp now with the few other mods I've added..If I chuck on long tubes and a exhaust, it'll easily be at 600+ whp...honestly turbo's are cool and all but N/A all day long, theres nothing even special about turbos really..i've raced MANY turbo cars including a friends heavily modded R32 GTR and beaten them all, i've raced a 2007 S2 activeautowerk M3 also and pulled him,
HP doesn't really mean much if you doesn't have the TQ to put it down, yeah yeah any car can have 500WHP big deal, but it's pathetic how many cars have 500WHP with like 350WTQ...thats a joke.
HP doesn't really mean much if you doesn't have the TQ to put it down, yeah yeah any car can have 500WHP big deal, but it's pathetic how many cars have 500WHP with like 350WTQ...thats a joke.
03-19-2015, 07:52 PM
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i've ran on 2 different dyno's 3-4 times and put down 489.9 whp with just a tune, i've done exhaust work, added ROW and a few other things since I dyno'd it last so it's probably got another 60-70 hp ..LTH's add 80-90 whp i've read, some people even have had 120+ whp gains with headers, so even if i dyno'd just shy over 500whp now, headers would put me close to 600 or just above
i'm sure a lot has to do with living in a city thats average temp is 10-15C all year round at sea level, I've heard of guys and seen videos of tuned C63's putting down like 380whp in alberta getting walked by 300whp evo's
i'm sure a lot has to do with living in a city thats average temp is 10-15C all year round at sea level, I've heard of guys and seen videos of tuned C63's putting down like 380whp in alberta getting walked by 300whp evo's
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03-19-2015, 07:52 PM
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Ive raced my Brother in his M4 ... the BS pulled on him everytime. TBH it wasnt even that close. The BS hooked better too but I was on Rcomps and he wasnt. We've done a lot of runs against eachother so Im pretty confident that a tuned C63 will pull on a stock F8x M3/M4. Tune the M4 to 500hp+ mark and it will be much closer and as the HP increases the BMW gains the edge.
03-19-2015, 08:33 PM
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i've ran on 2 different dyno's 3-4 times and put down 489.9 whp with just a tune, i've done exhaust work, added ROW and a few other things since I dyno'd it last so it's probably got another 60-70 hp ..LTH's add 80-90 whp i've read, some people even have had 120+ whp gains with headers, so even if i dyno'd just shy over 500whp now, headers would put me close to 600 or just above
i'm sure a lot has to do with living in a city thats average temp is 10-15C all year round at sea level, I've heard of guys and seen videos of tuned C63's putting down like 380whp in alberta getting walked by 300whp evo's
i'm sure a lot has to do with living in a city thats average temp is 10-15C all year round at sea level, I've heard of guys and seen videos of tuned C63's putting down like 380whp in alberta getting walked by 300whp evo's
03-19-2015, 08:44 PM
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my tuned C63 put down 489.9 WHP and 470wtq with just a tune on stock airboxes ..I imagine it's pushing closer to 550whp now with the few other mods I've added..If I chuck on long tubes and a exhaust, it'll easily be at 600+ whp...honestly turbo's are cool and all but N/A all day long, theres nothing even special about turbos really..i've raced MANY turbo cars including a friends heavily modded R32 GTR and beaten them all, i've raced a 2007 S2 activeautowerk M3 also and pulled him,
HP doesn't really mean much if you doesn't have the TQ to put it down, yeah yeah any car can have 500WHP big deal, but it's pathetic how many cars have 500WHP with like 350WTQ...thats a joke.
HP doesn't really mean much if you doesn't have the TQ to put it down, yeah yeah any car can have 500WHP big deal, but it's pathetic how many cars have 500WHP with like 350WTQ...thats a joke.
Not trying to be hostile, just sayin'...
03-19-2015, 09:17 PM
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i've ran on 2 different dyno's 3-4 times and put down 489.9 whp with just a tune, i've done exhaust work, added ROW and a few other things since I dyno'd it last so it's probably got another 60-70 hp ..LTH's add 80-90 whp i've read, some people even have had 120+ whp gains with headers, so even if i dyno'd just shy over 500whp now, headers would put me close to 600 or just above
i'm sure a lot has to do with living in a city thats average temp is 10-15C all year round at sea level, I've heard of guys and seen videos of tuned C63's putting down like 380whp in alberta getting walked by 300whp evo's
i'm sure a lot has to do with living in a city thats average temp is 10-15C all year round at sea level, I've heard of guys and seen videos of tuned C63's putting down like 380whp in alberta getting walked by 300whp evo's
Honestly, in the interest of helping you not look more foolish, may I suggest you do some basic reading on mod'ing a C63 before you continue this conversation.
You are way off base with your HP claims and expectations.
03-19-2015, 09:30 PM
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2010 E60 M5 and 2012 P31 C63 Coupe
ok ok ok gentleman, and occasional lady...
im here to settle your question of the thread!!!!
I have a weistec tuned 2012 P31 coupe, as with a few other mods that can be seen in my sig.
My buddy has a white m4 and i was with him on a cruise a few weeks back.
And these encounters were strictly with the weistec tune only and filters, the ROW airboxes and secondary cat delete came after.
a majority of the runs we did were rolling from street lights, so as per request basically they were between 30-40mph roll races.
i took him hard everytime. and i do mean everytime. we only went up to about 100 so a pretty quick sprint, yet showed me what i needed to know.
There was never a point of uncertainty if he would pull. From the hit i would pull and keep going. On average i would be about 4 cars ahead by 100mph.
Now talking about a tuned m4... i have not encountered one, but i suspect that a tune only c63 would probably get pulled. would love to hear if anyone has come across a tune only m3/m4
im here to settle your question of the thread!!!!
I have a weistec tuned 2012 P31 coupe, as with a few other mods that can be seen in my sig.
My buddy has a white m4 and i was with him on a cruise a few weeks back.
And these encounters were strictly with the weistec tune only and filters, the ROW airboxes and secondary cat delete came after.
a majority of the runs we did were rolling from street lights, so as per request basically they were between 30-40mph roll races.
i took him hard everytime. and i do mean everytime. we only went up to about 100 so a pretty quick sprint, yet showed me what i needed to know.
There was never a point of uncertainty if he would pull. From the hit i would pull and keep going. On average i would be about 4 cars ahead by 100mph.
Now talking about a tuned m4... i have not encountered one, but i suspect that a tune only c63 would probably get pulled. would love to hear if anyone has come across a tune only m3/m4
03-20-2015, 01:11 AM
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sorry 486whp my bad
i think it was like 390ish whp stock, which isn't unrealistic...i mean theres a thread on here posted last week of a C63 with just a tune running 560 crank HP..thats roughly 460-470whp ....
sorry 486whp my bad
i think it was like 390ish whp stock, which isn't unrealistic...i mean theres a thread on here posted last week of a C63 with just a tune running 560 crank HP..thats roughly 460-470whp ....
03-20-2015, 01:13 AM
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i dont really care if you guys wanna trash talk, go for it, all im relaying is #'s i saw on a computer screen that's it
P.S you just joined in march 2015, talk about someone who doesn't know much.
Sales Team <sales@oetuning.com>
Yes, Benzworks. We see 35-40wHp on the dyno. Headers and tune make +100-120wHp on the dyno for regular C63.
Right from the horses mouth, 30-40whp w/o a tune.
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03-20-2015, 05:45 AM
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nope, my C63 is probably one of the most modded here thats without a blower, basically bought everything minus a ice tank and all brand new internals and long-tubes, I've had my c63 for 3 years, blown up a few intakes and many parts, pretty sure i'm not completely brain dead, especially with 2 different dyno's on 2 different days put down around the same #'s ...i think the other dyno i ran like 460-465whp on a hot 30c day
i dont really care if you guys wanna trash talk, go for it, all im relaying is #'s i saw on a computer screen that's it
P.S you just joined in march 2015, talk about someone who doesn't know much.
Sales Team <sales@oetuning.com>
Yes, Benzworks. We see 35-40wHp on the dyno. Headers and tune make +100-120wHp on the dyno for regular C63.
Right from the horses mouth, 30-40whp w/o a tune.
i dont really care if you guys wanna trash talk, go for it, all im relaying is #'s i saw on a computer screen that's it
P.S you just joined in march 2015, talk about someone who doesn't know much.
Sales Team <sales@oetuning.com>
Yes, Benzworks. We see 35-40wHp on the dyno. Headers and tune make +100-120wHp on the dyno for regular C63.
Right from the horses mouth, 30-40whp w/o a tune.
03-20-2015, 05:56 AM
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nope, my C63 is probably one of the most modded here thats without a blower, basically bought everything minus a ice tank and all brand new internals and long-tubes, I've had my c63 for 3 years, blown up a few intakes and many parts, pretty sure i'm not completely brain dead, especially with 2 different dyno's on 2 different days put down around the same #'s ...i think the other dyno i ran like 460-465whp on a hot 30c day
i dont really care if you guys wanna trash talk, go for it, all im relaying is #'s i saw on a computer screen that's it
P.S you just joined in march 2015, talk about someone who doesn't know much.
Sales Team <sales@oetuning.com>
Yes, Benzworks. We see 35-40wHp on the dyno. Headers and tune make +100-120wHp on the dyno for regular C63.
Right from the horses mouth, 30-40whp w/o a tune.
i dont really care if you guys wanna trash talk, go for it, all im relaying is #'s i saw on a computer screen that's it
P.S you just joined in march 2015, talk about someone who doesn't know much.
Sales Team <sales@oetuning.com>
Yes, Benzworks. We see 35-40wHp on the dyno. Headers and tune make +100-120wHp on the dyno for regular C63.
Right from the horses mouth, 30-40whp w/o a tune.
03-20-2015, 08:21 AM
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From what I've seen that the M4's are throwing down with tunes, even streetable tunes I'm not convinced the c63 would walk away with it.
pure speculation but i'd think from a full stop to 100 pull the c63 would jump the m4 early then the m4 would quickly gain and over take (with a tune on both)
what I REALLY am curious to see is how the new w205's tune and compete since thats more of an apples to apples comparison given both are turbo
pure speculation but i'd think from a full stop to 100 pull the c63 would jump the m4 early then the m4 would quickly gain and over take (with a tune on both)
what I REALLY am curious to see is how the new w205's tune and compete since thats more of an apples to apples comparison given both are turbo
