w204nyc

My car is lowered on H&R Springs and i'm running continental dws tires 245/265 and i'm getting a lot of negative camber on the rear tires and a lot of pulling to the right even after alignment. Anyone else have issues with negative camber?

mthis

Does it feel like its steering with the rear? might be subframe loosened up.

w204nyc

If i let go of the steering wheel, it will pull right pretty hard. I know on my c300 it did that and the subframe was damaged. When i switch lanes, i feel like the rear tires bounce me back into the other lane

mthis

Have it looked at. how many miles u have in the car.

w204nyc

50k! I never had the issue before on stock tires. Now i went from 235/255 to 245/265 on stock rims and it feels weird. I had the alignment done at a good shop in queens called intrack tires.

mthis

My car was bad i was spinning 3rd gear how bad my camber was. took it to Harry @Bergen import in Nj. his very fair and works on some of the highest modified AMGs on the east coast.

w204nyc

Yeah I know about them. I'll give him a call but I know how busy he is. I was told by the shop that did my alignment that its because of the springs that my camber is so negative. I had like -2.8 and -3.1 i believe. Thanks for your help hagi

Mort

There is no adjustment, front or rear, except for toe on this car. You will need rear K-Mac bushings or aftermarket camber arms if you want to adjust for the rear camber. The pull to the right will need to adjusted at the front with MB adjustment bolts or K-Mac camber and caster bushings. K-Mac also has top strut camber plates that can be used to adjust for front camber and/or caster. The new tires are accenting the problem and it will lesson, like the stock tires, once they wear down the inner edges.

w204nyc

Thanks mort, I guess I'll have someone take care of the pulling because its terrible. Within three seconds of letting go of steering, the car is in the next lane

Bigtickets

Has it ever been wrecked or curbed real hard?

w204nyc

No. It wasnt pulling before the new tires. I had michelins 235 before. Now i have continental dws 245 and idk if that has anything to do with it.

zibby43

I know this sounds like an insane question but is the staggered setup installed correctly?

Many years ago, Discount Tire once put one of my wider rear tires up front (leaving one of the skinnier fronts out back).

I noticed it immediately, so I have no idea how the car would've behaved with the incorrect installation.

w204nyc

Its funny you say that because thats all I kept thinking about. I will have to look at the rims when I get a chance tomorrow morning. I hope thats not the issue here but anything is possible these days!

zibby43

You're absolutely right about that. I kind of hope that's the issue because it is such an easy fix.

Regardless, good luck and let us know what you're able to find out!

roadtalontsi

post up your alignment specs. ill tell you what i think. on a side note the dws tires cause alot of noise and vibration issues with a nice side of tire pulling. Not saying they are to blame but i definitely dislike those tires in general. when they did your alignment did they put any bolt kits in it? camber alone isnt really a tire killer. naturally it will wear tires more on the insides but by that time the middle and outside should be at the wear bars. Toe is the real killer.

w204nyc

Their printer wasnt working that day but i did take a look at it.
I'm going to go for a re-alignment tomorrow and i'll post the specs up. I just checked the rims and they're fine. I was driving and it was pulling to the right a lot, i yanked the steering to the left and it felt like it didnt want to go to the left. I'll have them take a look again maybe they missed something.

roadtalontsi

most benz tech's have no idea how to interpret and adjust the car properly. in the front ideally you want the front cambers as close to even as possible. right side more negative if anything, and around 40 minutes of caster higher on the right than the left. Toe front and rear need to be at stock specs (although some say the rear toe is too high in stock specs when driving on snow and ice). I live in texas so i cant vouch for that, but i can say stock specs provide great tire wear and proper handling. Toe doesnt affect pulling just where the steering wheel centers (front toe) and dog walk (rear toe)

w204nyc

Thanks for that info. Would you happen to know what the stock specs are so I can show them?

Mort

Here is a sheet I downloaded for a 2008-11 204 (C) AMG M156 -03/2011

w204nyc

Appreciate that Mort