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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 03:19 PM
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Hey Guys,
Is it too much extra drain on our cars if we use the a\c while driving spiritedly? I could turn it off but I'd melt. Power loss isn't the question here. I would like to know if it causes damage to the engine through extra strain. I have a 2009 100k km. Thanks
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 04:46 PM
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your be fine but your temps will get higher faster and throw you into limp mode. let it cool down and do it all over again.
u cant really damage it. before somethibg goes wrong will it throw u into limp mode.
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 05:25 PM
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My local tracks don't approve of cars putting down liquids of any kind on the track. Also, they require the windows to be fully rolled down. I've used my A/C on really hot days while waiting to enter the track but not on track.

The air compressor disconnects at WOT. You won't hurt the car. The water you drip on the track is incorrect behavior as far as I'm concerned. Please ask the people in charge at the track you want to run at. I'd be surprised if it's OK with them.

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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 08:33 PM
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LOL - a couple drops of AC water on the track will have no impact. That is about like saying dust particles and rubber bits from tires are forbidden......

A track is not a clean-room.
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 12:34 AM
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^^ lol
No one ever tracked in the rain I guess lol
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 06:51 AM
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Ask my friends. Not all rules makes perfect sense all the time but they're rules. Are you allowed to run on track with the windows up too?

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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 07:27 AM
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Ask my friends. Not all rules makes perfect sense all the time but they're rules. Are you allowed to run on track with the windows up too?

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No you're not.
How would you give the point by if your windows are up?
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 07:55 AM
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Usually the windows have to be down. I had it once that we agreed we could keep the windows up and give point bys with our flashers. But that was a small lapping day with only a handful drivers and it was cold.
I doubt you'll see anything like this on a larger track day.
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 07:57 AM
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correction: The driver window needs to be down for point bys. The passenger window can often be up if you want.
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 08:46 AM
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The tracks I've been on specifically state both windows down and no a/c per the condensation dripping. I personally agree that's a minimal amount (per car) but maybe the tracks have learned from experience something that we don't see as a likely problem can be.

When tracking in the rain, everyone knows it is wet out and the whole track is wet. So no one will be surprised with a wet spot. When tracking on a hot day drivers expect a dry track and drive accordingly. Perhaps a wet spot at just the wrong place can cause havoc. I don't know as I've never seen such a spin out.

I was on CoTA in Feb of this year and Austin was cold. First sessions were at around 36 degrees and it was misty/rainy. They gave no concessions. Both windows down or don't go out.

I'll be back out there on the Sunday following F1. So far the forecast is looking fabulous. Can't wait to try out the new Potenza Re-71R's!
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 02:49 PM
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I actually wish I had a track in my area. When driving in the twisties or on the track you are not always at WOT. Doesn't driving hard with the A/C on put extra strain on the engine regardless of high temps?
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 09:20 PM
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Guys,

The main reason for not allowing you to run the AC while on track has nothing to do with condensation. A lot of cars don't disconnect the AC clutch at WOT and they can desintigrate and lock up after repeated high RPM runs. This causes belts to be thrown violently and can lead to overheats that can cause blown engines (fluids) on track in very short order.
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A/C no way. Turn the heater on and blow air to help with your oil temps (old school cooling).
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Originally Posted by Wobble64
correction: The driver window needs to be down for point bys. The passenger window can often be up if you want.

The groups I run with require driver and passenger windows down. Two things-- visibility to other drivers and safety-if you have to crawl out of the car after a "problem."
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The groups I run with require driver and passenger windows down. Two things-- visibility to other drivers and safety-if you have to crawl out of the car after a "problem."
I've seen a range. No window down required (only once, very unusual), driver window down, both windows down. It depends on the organizer of the track day and conditions.

Fortunately cold weather is not an issue in our cars, even with windows open. Once you run and wear a jacket and a helmet it can be freezing and you'll still be fine.
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A/C no way. Turn the heater on and blow air to help with your oil temps (old school cooling).
This is what I always do too. Heater on full blast, vents pointed out the windows.
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