Who's running after market cams? i have questions

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Nov 17, 2015 | 01:37 PM

durranic

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Who's running after market cams? i have questions

so i have a 09' I'm getting a lot of stuff done to it here soon.. but i have a question about cams.. who's running them and which ones you guys use or whats the benefit and downfall and all that.. I'm doing homework on it to see if i really want them..

thanks for all who chime in..

Nov 17, 2015 | 04:45 PM

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I don't think you will find too many people running cams here actually I doubt anyone is running cams

For the price of cams you could pick up a 2nd hand blower

Nov 17, 2015 | 06:50 PM

QWKSNKE

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I haven't seen where anyone makes performance cams for the 63 motors

Nov 17, 2015 | 07:20 PM

durranic

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hmm okay and yeah im actually doing a blower as well I was just trying to see if anyone on here has done cams and what do they think.. and yeah MHP makes cams for the vehicle just really expensive..

Nov 17, 2015 | 08:50 PM

Phil Chow

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I wouldn't bother with the cams. For that sort of money, why don't you just go Stage 3 and build your tranny instead?

Nov 17, 2015 | 09:05 PM

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i was thinking about just going with the stage 3 but i got a great deal that i couldn't refuse on the stage 2.. so i was gonna do the stage 2 with all internals and transmission rebuild with the carbon drive shaft and torque converter.. but while i was getting the internals done i was looking into the mhp cams.. so just got on to get a insight of who's running them or whatever the case..

Nov 17, 2015 | 09:19 PM

Merc63

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Why eould you waste time with cams when you're only running stage 2? Upgrade the blower and be done with it?

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Nov 17, 2015 | 10:14 PM

HYPERTUNE

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Originally Posted by durranic

because thats what everyone does.. why not try and see what comes about diff ways or diff combinations.. but hey i guess no ones cammed..

I'm fairly sure that the stock M156 internals will be fine way after the stage 2 SC is past its ideal range. If you want more than what a stage 2 can offer, I think it's a false economy to use it just because it was cheap. The SC unit will always be the limiting factor no matter how strong the motor, or how big the cams. (unless you run nitrous)

Nov 17, 2015 | 10:35 PM

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I've driven a stage 3 with cams. Not sure if it makes a difference but it sure as hell idles nice

Nov 18, 2015 | 06:20 AM

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If I remember right, Weistec experiment with cams and even used it on JCart or Campbell. But told that power gains versus complications in programing and cost was not worth it.

Nov 18, 2015 | 10:07 AM

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The stock cams can vary themselves so much, I don't see how after market cams will do much.

Nov 18, 2015 | 10:37 AM

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Who did the tuning for the stage 3 Weistec car with MHPs cams?

Nov 18, 2015 | 12:05 PM

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SLS cams are an upgrade

Nov 18, 2015 | 12:14 PM

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Not from the research I have done. I think it was Dads63 that tried them. They lost power. It wasn't like the SLR cams in a 55 motor. I think its because they were designed to work with the intake manifold setup on the SLS. No matter what they did tune wise, they lost power.

He was selling a full set of SLS cams for $1000 if I remember right. His car with the MHP cams sounds nasty, but $8,000 for cams is a lot of money for the 40-50 whp they gain.

Nov 18, 2015 | 12:25 PM

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Jr cart replied to my thread in the amg private lounge saying it's not worth doing as the gains are minimal unless you can get an sls intake under the hood of a c. It would be nice if companies like msd, made an air force intake for the m156.... Great gains on the ls motors.... And the cost is minimal.