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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 09:14 AM
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Those With Aftermarket Coilovers...

So I installed my BC coils a couple of weeks ago and I've been having some trouble getting my front toes in line. The guys at the shop seem to think I need camber plates.

Has anyone else ran into this problem, I was really hoping I wouldn't need to add them on this car.

It looks like K-Mac's are the ones everyone suggests but I cant seem to find a website to buy them from.
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 11:11 AM
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Wait, toe is acting up? How is that possible? You just turn the tie rod until your specified toe is reached.

What could be affected is caster, camber, and pulling as without alignment correction bolts, is not possible to fix.

Can you post your alignment specs?
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 12:05 PM
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Coilovers for the C63 only just adjust ride height / damper settings.

Coilovers with aftermarket camber plates adjust front camber/caster only.
(K-Mac) - Stage 2 (Street/Race) P/N # 503016-2L

As 3.2 said, front toe can be adjusted with the factory tie rods and the rear toe has some adjustability.

Don't try to match factory toe settings unless you want to eat up the rear tires and there seems to be some directional "pulling" issues set from the factory. MB seems to have tried to compensate for it but seems to have mixed up some settings for LHD/RHD. (Hence why the some owners had some issues when installing H&R springs with factory alignment settings).

Ask your mechanic to set the front and rear toe to ~ 0 and go from there. They shouldn't have any issues doing that. Using some penetrating oil will help break it loose.

Contact Kevin Mcintyre @ K-Mac - sales@k-mac.com
Tell him David and Jim (Mort) referred you.
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 01:33 PM
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(Hence why the some owners had some issues when installing H&R springs with factory alignment settings).
I take it you are referring to the right hand pull some guys have when lowered on the H&R sports? Mine was fine, but I know many have had that issue. I have Sports going on the new car next weekend. You think thats a mix up of LHD/RHD specs?

Theres math involved in all of this stuff so I don't really get it. I just know how to calculate percentages cos Im in commission sales lol.
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG3.2
Wait, toe is acting up? How is that possible? You just turn the tie rod until your specified toe is reached.

What could be affected is caster, camber, and pulling as without alignment correction bolts, is not possible to fix.

Can you post your alignment specs?
The shop I went to said they couldn't get the toe to factory spec. I think they're both at +1 right now but they warned that I'll probably still go through front tires at a faster rate. Cars still pulling pretty heavily to the right as well.

I would love to post the alinement specs but the shop I went to threw the sheet out after they were done with my car (I was pretty pissed) My buddy in Orlando that owns a shop didn't really understand what they were saying about having trouble with the toe either.

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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 11:27 PM
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How on earth can they not get the "tow" to factory spec? As 3.2 said, those are tie rod adjustments.
I would not allow them to touch the car anymore and I would go to a shop that knows what they are doing.
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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 01:50 AM
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How on earth can they not get the "tow" to factory spec? As 3.2 said, those are tie rod adjustments.
I would not allow them to touch the car anymore and I would go to a shop that knows what they are doing.
+1, That shop sucks.

Read through this thread, a couple of us, myself included, posted some pretty good info in there regarding the pull.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...lls-right.html

If you're pulling, you'll need to install the factory alignment bolts to bring the control arms back in to spec. Caster and Camber being out of whack are causing your pull.

I've forgotten the specifics but read up in that thread.
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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by AMG3.2
+1, That shop sucks.

Read through this thread, a couple of us, myself included, posted some pretty good info in there regarding the pull.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...lls-right.html

If you're pulling, you'll need to install the factory alignment bolts to bring the control arms back in to spec. Caster and Camber being out of whack are causing your pull.

I've forgotten the specifics but read up in that thread.
Awesome thanks man

Originally Posted by Mazspeed
How on earth can they not get the "tow" to factory spec? As 3.2 said, those are tie rod adjustments.
I would not allow them to touch the car anymore and I would go to a shop that knows what they are doing.
It's supposed to be one of the top euro shops in Tampa too, pretty disappointing
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG3.2
+1, That shop sucks.

Read through this thread, a couple of us, myself included, posted some pretty good info in there regarding the pull.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...lls-right.html

If you're pulling, you'll need to install the factory alignment bolts to bring the control arms back in to spec. Caster and Camber being out of whack are causing your pull.

I've forgotten the specifics but read up in that thread.
About to pull the trigger on these just wanted to make sure they were the correct bolts.

I'll need two right?
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 10:46 PM
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the number of bolts you need will depend on the specs you have. Assume you'll need atleast 2. And i'd be concerned they cant get your front toe into specs, unless you somehow lowered or raised the like car 6 inches i cant imagine the tie rods running out of enough thread to adjust it. maybe the brake pedal was coming loose or they put the adapters on wrong? who knows. There are tons of great shops in florida you shouldnt have an issue finding an alternative.

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+1 Renntech is in Florida. Although, I'm sure that'll cost you a pretty penny.
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 08:08 AM
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+1 Renntech is in Florida. Although, I'm sure that'll cost you a pretty penny.
One of the techs there does side work on the weekends at a reduced rate, I'll probably just end up going to him again (he did my 35k maintenance a couple of months ago)

Thanks again for the help guys, I'll let you know how I make out.
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Originally Posted by marcadelic
One of the techs there does side work on the weekends at a reduced rate, I'll probably just end up going to him again (he did my 35k maintenance a couple of months ago)

Thanks again for the help guys, I'll let you know how I make out.
Sweet! I'll be in Florida for the next two weeks so would love to stop by Renntech and see what they're working on.

I've been to Florida (South Florida) a million times, but have never made it to Renntech. Always make it to Prestige Automotive though
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