yes agree seems like an amazing can , perhaps your hearing is impaired as it sounds nothing , zero , zip ,nada, nothing at all like a V8 to me , but I'm Australian and we love V8 noise
Listen to it on track, starting around 3:15. Sounds like one to me.
This is a late 70's Alfa Romeo Montreal.
This has a V8, the European V8 technology and sound is different.
This is overhead cam, drysump from the factory, mechanical fuel injection and a small displacement of 2.6 liter.
It makes its torque high up there at 4750 RPM and is meant to be revved in normal day by day life.
Because its a rare car these days, reviewers don't rev it like they should and need to.
This is why even this video is not representative and does not provide the real sound this car puts out.
I've worked for Alfa and saw factory guys in action with them. They bring it over the Max torque RPM and keep it there, even if they only drive to the store.
The point is, here's a much worse quality video of a Montreal Autodelta, , the driver giving it what it.. deserves.
Listen to how happy of a sound that it.
I'm glad to see so many potential Alfisti here, I'm one, owned a 164 in the 90's and will own one in the future.
You can't take only the good with them, take the good and be prepared for the bad. I did all my work, complied to all the painful requirements (timing belt two times every 3 years, take the dash apart to do stepper motors, correct the front suspension geometry and so on).
They all have needs. You give them what they need and they give you in return amazing, dramatic experiences.
Unrelated, I'm sorry but had to post this video of this Alfa GTV6, race prepared, taking part at an event in 2015.
Preparing such an Alfa does not need to be very expensive, certainly requires skill.
Notice the chance this guy takes race driving an Alfa of the 80's at a closed traffic event, but an event on streets, with no particular safety barriers.
A regular GTV6 is a 2.5 V6 and it can provide in close to stock form 75% of the drama seen here.
Why does everyone here like Alfa? I've never driven one, never been driven in one, and rarely rarely rarely see any of them. To me the design is boring, and the name carries no weight. So why is everyone ranting and raving about it?
Having listened to some more clips, I would say it has some very v8 sounding moments but it does sound like a TT6. Having said that, it sounds hella better than an M lol.
Pre facelift C63 and went from that to a facelift p31 c63 lol. Will get a 205 coupe next unless the 206 comes out as I am not a fan of them thus staying with a 204
Why does everyone here like Alfa? I've never driven one, never been driven in one, and rarely rarely rarely see any of them. To me the design is boring, and the name carries no weight. So why is everyone ranting and raving about it?
I'll try to explain why I like Alfa, I'm going to generalize a bit, bare with me:
These days cars cater to owners, this has been the case for a long time.
When a car is built so that everyone can drive it fast, so that everyone is driving it as it was meant to be driven, what you have left is the enjoyment of the sounds and adrenaline of going fast.
But if a car has quirks, these weed out a lot of potential owners. It's a society with an entry ticket.
The ticket is that you have to first put up with these.
Then you learn to turn these quirks/weaknesses into strengths.
At a certain point comes the realization that you have gotten to understand what it takes and have developed the skills and this is rewarding.
Take for instance an Alfa 75/Milano, or the GTV6. They're a transaxle car, with inboard rear brakes. Getting the gearbox to slot every gear for you is a ... negotiation process. I've seen guys that skip second until the transmission warms up, I've learnt that from them.
A young friend had a 1977 Alfa Spider, was grinding 3rd on downshift. People had told him to double declutch, that seemed to not work for him.
We saw that the blip that he was doing was not powerful enough, once he got that, it never ground again.
Having listened to some more clips, I would say it has some very v8 sounding moments but it does sound like a TT6. Having said that, it sounds hella better than an M lol.
This ^
Also just in short Alfa's keep it classic.
In the US the most you see of alfa is a 4c or 8c, but in Europe they have the good 'ol regular ones (older ones). In reality, that's where it all starts. Make good sporty cars and they end up being excellent driving machines.
I guess that's where some companies start to fall short these days.
TL, DR: One man's character defects are another man's personality. See: Saab.
Perfect reference. I'm a former SAAB owner (900s turbo). I loved it. It was such a different animal. Not extremely fast. Not a track car. But it had character. Finding character in cars today is getting difficult, and one reason why I love the c63.
I was recently considering getting a facelifted C63 (either coupe or sedan...didn't really matter) to replace my 2008 C63. I absolutely love the car so it didn't even occur to me to think about getting something else.
Then, I eventually figured I might as well consider all my options before committing to the same car again
Price range is about $65k or under preferably used. I'll do my own homework and inspect a car fully before purchasing.
I just haven't been able to think of anything I think I'd love as much as the c63. It performs great. Puts out awesome numbers for the price. Sounds awesome and is always a joy to drive. I've only thought of maybe getting a w205 c63 once they depreciate a little more or maybe finding a 2011+ maserati granturismo. Any other sugguestions? What did you guys move on to and what was the rationale?
Slightly used and highly depreciated 2015-2016 F-Type R coupe or convertible. Not sure if I want rear wheel drive or all wheel drive.
To the Alfa question: I really love driving my '75 Spider, for two reasons. First, it's a challenge--this is a car that demands a fair amount of skill to drive well, be it through the double-clutching, trail braking or a few other techniques. The lack of power anything and the lack of torque (relative to modern machines) mean that you have to drive well ahead of the car. That said, its handling is quite balanced.
Second, it's a rewarding experience. It's not a fast car, and it needs a lot of attention. However, the amount of smiles it generates, both for me and any onlookers, is far more than my other cars. Yes, the C63 accelerates much faster. Yes, the 456 eats distance much better. Yes, the E30 devours corners better. But the open top and tiny size of the car make you feel much more connected, if I can use that term. It's also a very distinctive car.
Td;dr: empirically, Alfas aren't very good. But they have lots of soul, passion, pizzazz, verve, etc. Mine is 100% a point-A-to-point-A car.
FL w204 c63 coupe
2013 m6
2013 maserati granturismo
c63 i've always loved. just really want a coupe and like the updated interior. it would also be cheaper than the other options so i could just save money while i think of what to get a couple years down the road.
m6 i go back and forth on. i like the size of it and it's a coupe. puts out a lot of hp and torque, but not sure how the real life day to day performance would be compared to the c63. has a lot of new tech i don't currently have though and a huge screen inside.
granturismo i think looks the best by far and also sounds awesome. not something you see everyday too. underperforming though and maintenance and reliability might be an issue i don't really want to deal with.
anyone happen to switch to any of these cars after having a c63?
i've considered a cl63 (2011+) and cls63 (2012+), but the interior feels dated in the cl and the cls isn't really doing it for me anymore looks-wise.
Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.
I guess that's where some companies start to fall short these days.
