Comparing tires for my C63
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Yeah, an entire shift in focus. For a number of years I raced on Hancooks and Coopers (spec tires) in F1600, F2000, ProMazda, etc. They were excellent, so I put Hancooks on my Porsche CS, and they were in turn excellent, and far less expensive than Michelins, Pirellis, Continentals, etc. Has anyone tried them? And yes, the C63 has noticeably more torque that my race cars, but the Hancooks and Coopers gripped remarkably well, were reliable in taking a consistent set, etc. Any thoughts?
The Tokyo R888 is a great example of this. It is a tire that works great on a 3200lb car, but is dreadful on a 3800lb car.
The more expensive tires normally have better rubber and build quality to withstand a heavier car like ours. Michelin and The Zero's are pretty good for our cars.
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If anyone is looking for cheaper tires, my car came with Pirelli P-Zero Nero's for summer tires and they seem to be good tires on the car for a reasonable price.
I do drive mine in the winter also and it is a drift machine - full snows and it takes a very delicate foot if there is any snow on the ground, but can be fun!
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I do drive mine in the winter also and it is a drift machine - full snows and it takes a very delicate foot if there is any snow on the ground, but can be fun!
Rob
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Generally 45F is the limit for summers, if you don't have to drive at temps lower than that or can mostly avoid it then you can get away with summers, you will die on snow and ice though on PSS's.
The issue with all season is they are a compromise, so not as good as summer or snow tires, if you like to drive a bit aggressively, the summers will provide a quite a bit more grip than all seasons when the temp is about 45, below that the all seasons will be better, snow tires probably make no sense. Good all seasons will probably be 80-90% performance of summers when warm, so just depends on your driving style and how often it is cold. A lot of the manufacturers will not warranty summers if you drive under 45F and they chunk as the rubber gets very hard when cold.
The issue with all season is they are a compromise, so not as good as summer or snow tires, if you like to drive a bit aggressively, the summers will provide a quite a bit more grip than all seasons when the temp is about 45, below that the all seasons will be better, snow tires probably make no sense. Good all seasons will probably be 80-90% performance of summers when warm, so just depends on your driving style and how often it is cold. A lot of the manufacturers will not warranty summers if you drive under 45F and they chunk as the rubber gets very hard when cold.
Where I live we get a lot of winter rain and some snow that lasts a few days - the current La Nina winter we are having notwithstanding - but we so get down to 32F and cooler at night. By law to go over a local road that rises from maybe 100ft ASL to 1100ft ASL in a very short distance we are required to have winters or All Weathers. A/S without the Mountain or Snowflake logo are not legal. The fines are high.
To deal with the rain and to be legal I bought Nexen Winterguard S. In the rain they are ok. In light snow could be better but not bad. Nothing on snow compacted to ice. They will spin in gear while idling on this surface and the ESP does not seem to be able to stop it. Going cheap is not a the way to go.
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If anyone is looking for cheaper tires, my car came with Pirelli P-Zero Nero's for summer tires and they seem to be good tires on the car for a reasonable price.
I do drive mine in the winter also and it is a drift machine - full snows and it takes a very delicate foot if there is any snow on the ground, but can be fun!
Rob
I do drive mine in the winter also and it is a drift machine - full snows and it takes a very delicate foot if there is any snow on the ground, but can be fun!
Rob
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MB was cautioning Canadian owners about the P-Zeros on my CLA45 AMG below 7 C. The side slip on sharp steering inputs at low speed was something I never experienced in any of the previous 10 MB cars I have had and in cold climates. Made me wonder what grip levels actually were at -4C
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I agree, You have to pay attention to what the manufacturer says about low temperature use.
MB was cautioning Canadian owners about the P-Zeros on my CLA45 AMG below 7 C. The side slip on sharp steering inputs at low speed was something I never experienced in any of the previous 10 MB cars I have had and in cold climates. Made me wonder what grip levels actually were at -4C
MB was cautioning Canadian owners about the P-Zeros on my CLA45 AMG below 7 C. The side slip on sharp steering inputs at low speed was something I never experienced in any of the previous 10 MB cars I have had and in cold climates. Made me wonder what grip levels actually were at -4C
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Sorry, I may not have been clear - the Nero's I run in the summer, I run Michelin Alpin Sport PA4's all winter from late November through April and the car is still a handful on full snows, put a lot of fun - it teaches good throttle control for sure!
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That's funny; I want the same winters for my car. Do you have separate summer and winter wheels?
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There are too many stupid drivers in the snow. That's why I garaged mine in the winter and mounted snow tires on the Lexus when I lived in VA Beach. I don't doubt my abilities or the car's. It's the other idiots.
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Reeeeer... relax. Just validating your strong opinion is backed with actual real world experience.
They don't sound like they come from experience with the C63 on decent winters in the snow.
Opinions/advice without experience is not uncommon on this site...
They don't sound like they come from experience with the C63 on decent winters in the snow.
Opinions/advice without experience is not uncommon on this site...
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Everyone is so scared about c63's in snow. I didn't drive mine in snow because I didn't have to, but if I had too I wouldn't even sweat and just put on some decent snow tires. People act like the second you hit the throttle in a dusting you'll spin off into oblivion.
Relevant vid: powerful car in snow.
Yes, it's awd. Yes, crazy tires. But it's a lambo climbing a mountain. If you can't get a c63 down plowed roads on snow tires... oy.
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Relevant vid: powerful car in snow.
Yes, it's awd. Yes, crazy tires. But it's a lambo climbing a mountain. If you can't get a c63 down plowed roads on snow tires... oy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AF0-t3GGZA
Yes, it's awd. Yes, crazy tires. But it's a lambo climbing a mountain. If you can't get a c63 down plowed roads on snow tires... oy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AF0-t3GGZA
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Does it hurt knowing you'll never get the chance to scream up a mountain in a lambo or run a slalom course in an F1 machine?
Wonder how that idea even got off the ground?
Redbull Exec: "We need to do something crazy again. What do you guys got?"
pleb: "We could always throw chains on an F1 car and dangle it off a snowy cliff? With some drifts thrown in?"
Redbull exec: "Get this man a raise."
Wonder how that idea even got off the ground?
Redbull Exec: "We need to do something crazy again. What do you guys got?"
pleb: "We could always throw chains on an F1 car and dangle it off a snowy cliff? With some drifts thrown in?"
Redbull exec: "Get this man a raise."
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I don't have any C63 snow experience, but I have tire experience and tire testing experience in all weather, so I do have some experience there.
Having said that, when I generalize tires for the car, I don't think of snow because if you have a C63, in my mind you probably have another car to drive in the snow. So I sort of through that out.
While it might be fun to drive the C63 in the snow, I would not do it only because of the low down torque heaviness of the car. It's hard to keep traction on dry ground let alone snow with that thing. That throttle is very touchy and in those conditions it could be very dangerous. I guess it just depends on how much you are driving that car in the snow if the OP is at all and or needs a tire for it.
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You've exceeded your valid point quota for this thread. Please move along. Ha.
Everyone is so scared about c63's in snow. I didn't drive mine in snow because I didn't have to, but if I had too I wouldn't even sweat and just put on some decent snow tires. People act like the second you hit the throttle in a dusting you'll spin off into oblivion.
Relevant vid: powerful car in snow.
Yes, it's awd. Yes, crazy tires. But it's a lambo climbing a mountain. If you can't get a c63 down plowed roads on snow tires... oy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AF0-t3GGZA
Everyone is so scared about c63's in snow. I didn't drive mine in snow because I didn't have to, but if I had too I wouldn't even sweat and just put on some decent snow tires. People act like the second you hit the throttle in a dusting you'll spin off into oblivion.
Relevant vid: powerful car in snow.
Yes, it's awd. Yes, crazy tires. But it's a lambo climbing a mountain. If you can't get a c63 down plowed roads on snow tires... oy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AF0-t3GGZA
Not even remotely relevant. All wheel drive, spiked tires on a closed packed course. No road with other cars on a hard icy surface. Big difference in itself. Although this has snow on it, it's not icy. What part of this is relevant to the OP's question? You could not use these tires with what he was asking? Plus you would not drive with these in the rain. Not all weather.
"People act like the second you hit the throttle in a dusting you'll spin off into oblivion"
You absolutely could.
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