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I haven't had a chance to pull the injectors yet but i did notice the spark plug was dripping with fuel. Going to change the injector once i can find one for a reasonable price. Also i heard its best to do an oil change in case there is a lot of fuel in it. Any tip on how to clear the cylinder chamber of any residual gas?
You can do it this way if you like:
When the engine is COLD...Remove all the plugs, AND remove all the ignition coils. Lay a towel/shop rags over the opened plug wells. Crank the engine with the starter a few times to clear the cylinder. I support doing an oil change as the oil may (and is likely) contaminated with fuel. I would also recommend doing all the injectors. They have a lot of miles on em', wouldn't be a bad idea.
Why risk damaging your engine or waste any more of your time over this. Just take it all off and send it back to EC to figure out. Didnt someone bend a rod recently because of a stuck injector? If your car was fine before, and it’s not now, there’s your answer I would think.
Yeah, that was me. Ended up being a silver lining because my old head bolts were looking a little rough.
Just wanted to give an update on my the issues i was running into.
Working with Dave we deduced that the harness that came with the kit may of been the issue. A new harness was sent over and over the weekend i did the install. So far so good as the I am no longer getting anymore misfires and the car is running great. I've put about 40 miles on it so far but will report back once i get a couple hundred more. Big thanks to Dave for helping me get the issue situated.
Just wanted to give an update on my the issues i was running into.
Working with Dave we deduced that the harness that came with the kit may of been the issue. A new harness was sent over and over the weekend i did the install. So far so good as the I am no longer getting anymore misfires and the car is running great. I've put about 40 miles on it so far but will report back once i get a couple hundred more. Big thanks to Dave for helping me get the issue situated.
Good to hear.
And good to see Eurocharged helping you find the fault, and replacing the faulty part.
Am I able to run c85 using this kit I am in Canada and don't have access to e85 st the pumps but would just buy cans of c85 for the weekend and track days
Am I able to run c85 using this kit I am in Canada and don't have access to e85 st the pumps but would just buy cans of c85 for the weekend and track days
I’m on a mobile. Why can’t I find a link to the kit product page? Operator error or what? I’m lucky enough to have one E85 station in Napa and this could be for me if as I understand the thread it will integrate with my existing tune.
2012 C63;1971 280SE 3.5(Sold);2023 EQS 450 SUV 4 Matic (Wife's)
Originally Posted by Crya
I’m on a mobile. Why can’t I find a link to the kit product page? Operator error or what? I’m lucky enough to have one E85 station in Napa and this could be for me if as I understand the thread it will integrate with my existing tune.
It is not available from Eurocharged Houston. You get the E85 kit from Eurocharged Austin. Try:
Eurocharged Austin
7 Applegate Circle #400
Round Rock, Texas 78665 sales@eurochargedatx.com
512-777-2799
Business Hours:
Monday to Friday- 7:30 AM to 5:30 PM
Saturday- By appointment
Sunday- Closed
Curious how you guys with the kit mounted the harness? At first, I had the new harness/plugs zip tied right on top of the factory harness. It looked clean but when I put the insulation pad on top of the harness, it sat too high and the airbox wasnt able to snap in. I removed everything and tried my best to get the new harness underneath the factory harness and fuel rail. It was a ***** to get everything underneath and not cause the wires to have sharp bends.
Only thing Im slighty concerned about is having the wires/plug touch the intake manifold because of the heat. No wires are touching the head or valve cover. I dont think the manifold heat would be a problem but Im not sure....
Also, since I upgraded to the 550 injectors, I noticed my fuel trims have gotten really high. Anyone else notice that?
I wish there was another GB on this, taking into account that the price is still $1600 but they've dropped the injector service. As I understand the history, the original price of $1600 didn't really include injectors, but included sending you back refurbished injectors that had been opened up. So there was a core charge. Then they decided non-LTH cars didn't require the refurb'd injectors so they dropped the core, left the price at $1600, and off we go. I've had a lot of questions since the "other" E85 kit gained some popularity and AFD has answered all my questions.
The kit is $1,500 shipped, and at the moment it's $480 for injectors... This had been the price for a very long time. The problems with the injectors are well documented and not sure why folks would even want to use them knowing the downsides...
You DON'T need a retune for 550cc, we have not retuned a single car for injectors. So long as the car is in perfect mechanical shape - it will be perfect and run great.
'04 E55 (Gone but not forgotten), '13 C63 P31 (RIP), another '13 C63 PP
Originally Posted by DavesMeanE's
The kit is $1,500 shipped, and at the moment it's $480 for injectors... This had been the price for a very long time. The problems with the injectors are well documented and not sure why folks would even want to use them knowing the downsides...
You DON'T need a retune for 550cc, we have not retuned a single car for injectors. So long as the car is in perfect mechanical shape - it will be perfect and run great.
Curious how you guys with the kit mounted the harness? At first, I had the new harness/plugs zip tied right on top of the factory harness. It looked clean but when I put the insulation pad on top of the harness, it sat too high and the airbox wasnt able to snap in. I removed everything and tried my best to get the new harness underneath the factory harness and fuel rail. It was a ***** to get everything underneath and not cause the wires to have sharp bends.
Only thing Im slighty concerned about is having the wires/plug touch the intake manifold because of the heat. No wires are touching the head or valve cover. I dont think the manifold heat would be a problem but Im not sure....
Also, since I upgraded to the 550 injectors, I noticed my fuel trims have gotten really high. Anyone else notice that?
hey bentz69 two quick things:
1. The insulation pads did not fit on mine.
2. I am not back into the car until Tuesday, I can get some readings to compare
1. The insulation pads did not fit on mine.
2. I am not back into the car until Tuesday, I can get some readings to compare
I got the pads on there and the airboxes sitting in the correct spot (snapped in to all 3 mounts) on both sides. Im just not sure how I feel about having the harness on the underside of the fuel rail. I liked it better when the flex harness/plugs were all directly on top of the oem harness. They weren't touching the fuel rail, intake manifold or valve cover. But when the flex harness is on top of the oem harness you cant use the pad.
IDK how much heat that pad actually absorbs and prevents heat transfer to the airbox.
'04 E55 (Gone but not forgotten), '13 C63 P31 (RIP), another '13 C63 PP
Originally Posted by DavesMeanE's
The kit is $1,500 shipped, and at the moment it's $480 for injectors... This had been the price for a very long time. The problems with the injectors are well documented and not sure why folks would even want to use them knowing the downsides...
You DON'T need a retune for 550cc, we have not retuned a single car for injectors. So long as the car is in perfect mechanical shape - it will be perfect and run great.
Thanks!
Dave
Originally Posted by DavesMeanE's
Yes you do
I'm not understanding the confusion with the pricing
Thanks
Dave
The fact that it basically costs $500 more for the same thing now is a little confusing tbh.
I like how this next gen of c63 owners questions everything especially price. Pretty much, "you drop the price or we ain't buying it." Their response, "Well you gotta pay to play." Our response "Yeah, we'll pay and play elsewhere then."
'04 E55 (Gone but not forgotten), '13 C63 P31 (RIP), another '13 C63 PP
Originally Posted by SactownP31
I like how this next gen of c63 owners questions everything especially price. Pretty much, "you drop the price or we ain't buying it." Their response, "Well you gotta pay to play." Our response "Yeah, we'll pay and play elsewhere then."
Well my main problem is that the price inexplicably went up $500 for a kit who's competitor is half the price with what seems to be not much practical difference, if any.
Some of these cars are hitting their 10 year mark this year mark, and are selling for around $20-25k. I don't think it's out of pocket to wonder why the M156 is still being taxed so hard.
I mean look at ESS. They come out with the same rotor pack Wiestec uses, with, by all accounts, a better housing, and it's priced about 1/3 less. But then parts from other companies start going up in price?
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