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Old 01-28-2017, 12:53 PM
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We'll shoot! You're ready to go then - what injectors do you have in the car? Shot you a PM with my #, I wanna chat a little more about the car.
Hi, I have same set up. Could you please PM me the information.

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Hi, I have same set up. Could you please PM me the information.

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PM sent, Sir!
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Not sure if my E63 is worthy for this stuff, but I'm genuinely intrigued by it as a general power adder for my other car.

Am I correct in thinking that running this stuff would effectively be like running Aquamist/water injection on a turbo car? Ie, higher knock suppression and allows for more advanced timing? I was half-considering using AEM water injection on my N/A 2zz on 14.5:1 static compression, but this stuff sounds so much better!

Would you guys be open to providing systems (or do it yourself kits) for other marques?
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If I wasn't selling my AMG I would be buying this ASAP.

Bummer!!

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Not sure if my E63 is worthy for this stuff, but I'm genuinely intrigued by it as a general power adder for my other car.

Am I correct in thinking that running this stuff would effectively be like running Aquamist/water injection on a turbo car? Ie, higher knock suppression and allows for more advanced timing? I was half-considering using AEM water injection on my N/A 2zz on 14.5:1 static compression, but this stuff sounds so much better!

Would you guys be open to providing systems (or do it yourself kits) for other marques?
We are currently developing systems for other marques - I will send you a PM and we can discuss

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Got the kit before lunch today. 2 hours later it was completely installed. Notes from the install.... first time messing with the fuel rail on my car. I started with the highest connection on the hose going to the fuel rail and let the pressure vent of from there. Not sure why but about a few minutes after I had thought I had depressurized a the fuel rail and was disconnecting the electrical connections on the injectors I had a gasoline geyser shoot out of the fuel rail! Not sure where that pressure was hiding or what trigger its release but definitely shocking. I found it easier to just cut the zip ties on all the electrical connections on the fuel rail and re-zip tie it than just try to get them to disconnect. The electrical harness is made so only that all the connections can just barely reach the fuel injector so that helps from getting it mixed up. I layed it out over the whole engine just to map out beforehand to see what goes where. Still gotta find a better place for the controlled. i have it strapped on top of the Y on the intake for the moment until I figure out a better spot to mount it.
When it came time the start the car took a little longer than normal to start, probably from filling up the fuel rail again. Rough idle, check engine light... I gave it a few light revs to hear the imbalance in the idle, shut it down and checked for leaks. Found no leaks so I started it again and she fired up like normal. Closed the hood, gave her a roll around the block and everything seemed normal so I put in 6 gallons of E85 to top of the tank and she's still running great. Probably going to have to spring for a dyno sometime soon.
Overall, it was pretty similar to installing a Power Commander on a motorcycle, just on a gigantic engine instead.
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First thought after I filled up was that the gas peddle felt stiffer for no reason that made sense to me. Downshifts had a quicker, more aggressive bark. I wasn't anywhere that I could hammer it and it was around a 50/50 E85/91 mix but the car seemed to enjoy what was going on. Getting on the freeway tonight so we'll see what a few WOT on the butt dyno feels like.
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First thought after I filled up was that the gas peddle felt stiffer for no reason that made sense to me. Downshifts had a quicker, more aggressive bark. I wasn't anywhere that I could hammer it and it was around a 50/50 E85/91 mix but the car seemed to enjoy what was going on. Getting on the freeway tonight so we'll see what a few WOT on the butt dyno feels like.
nice let us know how it feels. I remember in my older cars pulling the relay for the fuel pump and cranking the car to bleed the fuel rail down before working on it. Not sure if that's a possibility on this car. Maybe Dave can chime in on that.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:19 PM
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nice let us know how it feels. I remember in my older cars pulling the relay for the fuel pump and cranking the car to bleed the fuel rail down before working on it. Not sure if that's a possibility on this car. Maybe Dave can chime in on that.

Howdy!

Honestly to bleed the rail I just use a couple rags around/under the rail inlet connection and crack it loose let the pressure out and then let it drain for a couple seconds.

Alternatively - connect a pressure gauge to the test port and bleed from there.

Just be very cautious as you are dealing with fuel
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Damn, nice to see somebody using it so soon!
Engine bay pics please of any hardware (if it's not just injectors)

I'm guessing you've already got the V6 tune to take advantage of this stuff, right?

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the WOT report
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This. Is. F. Great.

In Brazil we have cheap cheap cheap ethanol. Every corner. Not sure our mix is the E85 thought.. I know people from Chevy and Ford been doing this for a while now. There's a pal here that owns a '12 Shelby GT500 heavily modded and he runs on Ethanol...

Thinking you'd get over 500whp with bone stock and lightly modded is indeed a very interesting option. Sub'd. Wanna see what's the fuzz all about.
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Originally Posted by CaptnCharisma View Post
First thought after I filled up was that the gas peddle felt stiffer for no reason that made sense to me. Downshifts had a quicker, more aggressive bark. I wasn't anywhere that I could hammer it and it was around a 50/50 E85/91 mix but the car seemed to enjoy what was going on. Getting on the freeway tonight so we'll see what a few WOT on the butt dyno feels like.
Was that the E85 station on Brookhurst? That is where I would always fill up my GTI as it has both E85 and 91 in a row! Very curious to hear your results, I am leaning heavily towards it very soon and Im also in Huntington.

My goal was to get to about 525 whp without forced induction and E85 seems like a much better option than a 75 shot of nitrous haha.
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Was that the E85 station on Brookhurst? That is where I would always fill up my GTI as it has both E85 and 91 in a row! Very curious to hear your results, I am leaning heavily towards it very soon and Im also in Huntington.

My goal was to get to about 525 whp without forced induction and E85 seems like a much better option than a 75 shot of nitrous haha.
That was the G&M station on Goldenwest and Edinger. Conveniently its within a block of my house. Pretty happy with the kit so far and its a buck cheaper than 91. Hopefully I'll get to run a full tank of E85 this weekend and hammer it.
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That was the G&M station on Goldenwest and Edinger. Conveniently its within a block of my house. Pretty happy with the kit so far and its a buck cheaper than 91. Hopefully I'll get to run a full tank of E85 this weekend and hammer it.
how has the 50/50 mix been. Feel any gains from just that?
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DavesMeanE's - What have been your findings with regards to ratio?

My previous cars were both recommended to run 30:70 for E85:91 by the tuners.

Is there a point of diminishing returns? I could certainly feel more power on the GTI when I would run 40:60 but I would also get CELs from it.
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DavesMeanE's - What have been your findings with regards to ratio?

My previous cars were both recommended to run 30:70 for E85:91 by the tuners.

Is there a point of diminishing returns? I could certainly feel more power on the GTI when I would run 40:60 but I would also get CELs from it.
It's in the first post. All e85. Or even e98. Or any combo. Could even be e66.33...repeating, of course.
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It's in the first post. All e85. Or even e98. Or any combo. Could even be e66.33...repeating, of course.
I did see he mentioned it COULD run on any combo, but he also stated they did significant testing. I assume after this testing they noted a sweet spot, but hey, maybe not. This may also be changed by other variables such as tune or other mods, just looking for more insight from their testing.
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I did see he mentioned it COULD run on any combo, but he also stated they did significant testing. I assume after this testing they noted a sweet spot, but hey, maybe not. This may also be changed by other variables such as tune or other mods, just looking for more insight from their testing.
On N/A cars - about 80% and it doesnt make any more power.

F/I cars, as much as you can get

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On N/A cars - about 80% and it doesnt make any more power.

F/I cars, as much as you can get

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