Service Manual?
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Service Manual?
Searching the past posts, I get the impression that the only C63 service manual access available to owners is to subscribe to one of the online subscription services. I would really prefer to have a physical copy, even though I know it might be costly.
Is there any practical way of getting a hardcopy service manual?
Jim G
Is there any practical way of getting a hardcopy service manual?
Jim G
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It's a java based interface that connects to a secure webserver with an encrypted database.
You can find the WIS & EPC on eaby easy enough. Most of them are just a VM snapshot with it all pre-installed so you can just run it in vmware.
You can find the WIS & EPC on eaby easy enough. Most of them are just a VM snapshot with it all pre-installed so you can just run it in vmware.
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But I guess the collection of information necessary for working on a Mercedes might be too large to produce a self-standing searchable pdf product viewable on virtually any computer.
I may be out of luck on this and have to depend on my MB dealership, but I hate doing that for what should be simple replacement repairs, especially at $135 per hour.
I have often just dived in to a vehicle for simple part replacements, but the postings on this forum that I have read for simple things like air filter replacements make me hesitate, as i don't want to break costly OEM parts simply because I don't know where the hidden "tabs" screws, etc are located. And it is sometimes important to know the correct specified torque for a nut or bolt.
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On other cars I've worked on, often it's available in print, as in an actual book. I find that much better to work with, as I like to make notes and mark off pages of interest to come back to. Sometimes I like to read my old books before going to bed, with a hot cup of tea. Emulators are too clunky for me to schlep into bed, all of the wires get in the way and the bright light disturbs my REM sleep, should I fall asleep with it on.
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I try to avoid software solutions, especially since I run a Mac, not Windows. I try to keep my Mac OS "clean" of any emulators as I have had flaky experiences running emulators and Windows sessions.
But I guess the collection of information necessary for working on a Mercedes might be too large to produce a self-standing searchable pdf product viewable on virtually any computer.
But I guess the collection of information necessary for working on a Mercedes might be too large to produce a self-standing searchable pdf product viewable on virtually any computer.
VMWare is not "flaky" and it's a simple solution to access the real deal (a VM with a local install of the system. Exactly what you'd access online). I believe the Mac solution is VMWare Fusion.
I run VMWare Player on a linux box and it works flawlessly.
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Unfortunately the official Daimler AG system is sophisticated. There's no "official" PDF version but you may be able to find something after market? Although I'd only trust the real thing for torque specs etc...
VMWare is not "flaky" and it's a simple solution to access the real deal (a VM with a local install of the system. Exactly what you'd access online). I believe the Mac solution is VMWare Fusion.
I run VMWare Player on a linux box and it works flawlessly.
VMWare is not "flaky" and it's a simple solution to access the real deal (a VM with a local install of the system. Exactly what you'd access online). I believe the Mac solution is VMWare Fusion.
I run VMWare Player on a linux box and it works flawlessly.
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The local installer is what a dealership may use. The one I have (which is just a local install packaged up in a VM) has an admin user with an expiry of 2099 or something.
Here's an old install guide if you want to see what's involved. I had a copy from way back that stopped working. I find the VM route is a lot easier. It's already all set up for you. You just launch the VM and away you go.
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I like the Fusion better than Parallels. Never tried VirtualBox
http://lifehacker.com/run-windows-on...-vs-1750474360
We have a Windows computer at our office that we have never ditched strictly for stuff like
this and the MyGenius software.
Every. single. time I fire it up it immediately goes wheel of death for a few minutes and I give thinks for Mac. Damn Windows crap
http://lifehacker.com/run-windows-on...-vs-1750474360
We have a Windows computer at our office that we have never ditched strictly for stuff like
this and the MyGenius software.
Every. single. time I fire it up it immediately goes wheel of death for a few minutes and I give thinks for Mac. Damn Windows crap
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I like the Fusion better than Parallels. Never tried VirtualBox
http://lifehacker.com/run-windows-on...-vs-1750474360
We have a Windows computer at our office that we have never ditched strictly for stuff like
this and the MyGenius software.
Every. single. time I fire it up it immediately goes wheel of death for a few minutes and I give thinks for Mac. Damn Windows crap
http://lifehacker.com/run-windows-on...-vs-1750474360
We have a Windows computer at our office that we have never ditched strictly for stuff like
this and the MyGenius software.
Every. single. time I fire it up it immediately goes wheel of death for a few minutes and I give thinks for Mac. Damn Windows crap
If you have performance issues with your Pc, especially on startup and logging in, switching your hard drive to an SSD will make it like 500% faster. It's really cheap nowadays too
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http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mercedes-WIS-...dVo~Nm&vxp=mtr
There are lots of choices.
The simple stuff is simple if you don't over think it. The biggest challenge is getting the engine cover and air boxes of. Clips can go flying but usually slow and easy and a small light will keep it clean. If the engine cover clips go missing you don't have to pay $15 each for them. GM Garnish Moulding fasteners do the trick and you can get a box of 15 for $15.
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I built myself a Hackintosh, which is a desktop that runs Mac on all 'PC parts'.
Really what I should do is just fire another drive in there and make it a dual boot, but my business partner uses the PC for some of his stuff too.
It the only Windows thing that either of us owns. Sits in the corner and gets shunned
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Plenty of videos on youtube for doing simple things like air filters, oil, brakes.
for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0aefV_AHAU
for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0aefV_AHAU
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On other cars I've worked on, often it's available in print, as in an actual book. I find that much better to work with, as I like to make notes and mark off pages of interest to come back to. Sometimes I like to read my old books before going to bed, with a hot cup of tea. Emulators are too clunky for me to schlep into bed, all of the wires get in the way and the bright light disturbs my REM sleep, should I fall asleep with it on.
As for taking emulators to bed with you, man,that sounds a little kinky.
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Unfortunately the official Daimler AG system is sophisticated. There's no "official" PDF version but you may be able to find something after market? Although I'd only trust the real thing for torque specs etc...
VMWare is not "flaky" and it's a simple solution to access the real deal (a VM with a local install of the system. Exactly what you'd access online). I believe the Mac solution is VMWare Fusion.
I run VMWare Player on a linux box and it works flawlessly.
VMWare is not "flaky" and it's a simple solution to access the real deal (a VM with a local install of the system. Exactly what you'd access online). I believe the Mac solution is VMWare Fusion.
I run VMWare Player on a linux box and it works flawlessly.
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If he doesn't want to partition off his HD on his Mac he can pick up a used PC laptop for $200 easily and then buy this kind of thing. He can do his taxes without going online to Turbotax's cloud as I do too.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mercedes-WIS-...dVo~Nm&vxp=mtr
There are lots of choices.
The simple stuff is simple if you don't over think it. The biggest challenge is getting the engine cover and air boxes of. Clips can go flying but usually slow and easy and a small light will keep it clean. If the engine cover clips go missing you don't have to pay $15 each for them. GM Garnish Moulding fasteners do the trick and you can get a box of 15 for $15.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mercedes-WIS-...dVo~Nm&vxp=mtr
There are lots of choices.
The simple stuff is simple if you don't over think it. The biggest challenge is getting the engine cover and air boxes of. Clips can go flying but usually slow and easy and a small light will keep it clean. If the engine cover clips go missing you don't have to pay $15 each for them. GM Garnish Moulding fasteners do the trick and you can get a box of 15 for $15.
I've been paying attention to the threads on brake pads, brake rotors, etc.Jim G
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If you have multiple posts that you want to respond to, go through each one that you are answering and click that button marked "off". They will now say "on". When you get to the last box you want to reply to, hit the quote button.
Now you will get a text box come up that shows each of those quotes. If you type between those quotes you will get a reply that has each comment you are responding to, and then your response. You can edit the original comments so it just has the pertinent info. When in doubt, you can click on the "preview post" button that comes below. You'll see this one, at the very bottom of this picture:
And then when you are done, this is how it would look, and in fact, thats how I made my awesome signature:
I actually took that screenshot from the preview window. Its handy, cos it lets you know that you are formatted ok.
It can be kind of tricky sometimes, especially if there are photos or links involved.
Hints from Heloise. Sometimes, it just happens though, and you reply one at a time.
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Also, dont forget to go back and turn the 'ON' to 'OFF' if you are replying again to the same thread right away, or you will get the same mess all over again.
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