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Old 09-02-2017 | 05:33 PM
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Figured you guys were just retarded claiming the car runs quieter on this stuff. I can confirm this as well or I'm just as retarded.

Less interior cabin noise from the engine was noticeable. Maybe the Mobil 0W40 was just breaking down too much?
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Old 09-02-2017 | 05:57 PM
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Old 09-04-2017 | 01:37 PM
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Ugh. Yeah, when I read that, I realized I'd be a bit low, but only had one bottle on me when I did the oil change a few days ago. I'll just add a half bottle, and remove some oil to bring the level back down. The engine does seem quieter, especially at start up.
Recently made the switch to Rotella and love it so far. Would anyone mind giving me a rundown of MOS2? Seems like a few guys use it and love it. Anything I should do? Look out for?
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Dose with CeraTec first. Then next oil change start with the MOS2. Plenty of info on BITOG.
Old 09-04-2017 | 11:04 PM
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Dose with CeraTec first. Then next oil change start with the MOS2. Plenty of info on BITOG.
Thanks. What's BITOG?
Old 09-04-2017 | 11:34 PM
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Thanks. What's BITOG?
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Old 09-04-2017 | 11:38 PM
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Kinda off topic but when you guys are doing your oil change are you also draining the oil cooler everytime as well ? Last time I did it I drained both just wondering if both is required all the time.
Old 09-05-2017 | 02:29 AM
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Recently made the switch to Rotella and love it so far. Would anyone mind giving me a rundown of MOS2? Seems like a few guys use it and love it. Anything I should do? Look out for?
https://bobistheoilguy.com/moly-basics/
Old 09-05-2017 | 07:53 AM
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Kinda off topic but when you guys are doing your oil change are you also draining the oil cooler everytime as well ? Last time I did it I drained both just wondering if both is required all the time.
I do. Why leave a qt/L of old dirty oil in the system?
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Thanks for that link. Went on a Google hunt to find some answers and this is what I've come up with:

The ideal ratio of Ceratec to oil is around 6%. This means we'd want to add around 450-500 mL of Ceratec when changing the oil. From what I understand, Ceratec only last about 4-5 oil changes before re-treating the engine. Once you've cycled through the initial treatment and need to change the oil again, start the MoS2 treatment. For our oil capacity, I believe 400 mL (Around a can and a half) should suffice. Again, from what I understand, you use the MoS2 treatment as a sort of buffer until you need to do the Ceratec treatment again.

This is what I've come up with so far. Can anyone chime in and correct me if I'm wrong?

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Thanks for that link. Went on a Google hunt to find some answers and this is what I've come up with:

The ideal ratio of Ceratec to oil is around 6%. This means we'd want to add around 450-500 mL of Ceratec when changing the oil. From what I understand, Ceratec only last about 4-5 oil changes before re-treating the engine. Once you've cycled through the initial treatment and need to change the oil again, start the MoS2 treatment. For our oil capacity, I believe 400 mL (Around a can and a half) should suffice. Again, from what I understand, you use the MoS2 treatment as a sort of buffer until you need to do the Ceratec treatment again.

This is what I've come up with so far. Can anyone chime in and correct me if I'm wrong?

BUMP!

Can anyone confirm my measurements (above) before I hit the order button on Amazon. Just want to make sure I'm not adding too much or too little... Going to start the Ceratec treatment for the first time.
Old 09-28-2017 | 07:23 PM
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I have noisy lifters now with this oil. Probably going to ditch it and put the 0W40 M1 back in.

The initial observation of it running quieter was likely just fresh vs old oil.
Old 10-02-2017 | 04:42 PM
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I have noisy lifters now with this oil. Probably going to ditch it and put the 0W40 M1 back in.

The initial observation of it running quieter was likely just fresh vs old oil.
That's odd. I started mine up yesterday after a month and it sounded like things were buttery smooth in there.

I wonder why you're car seems to be noisy?
Old 10-02-2017 | 05:18 PM
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I swapped out the oil and it didn't make a difference.

Maybe she's gonna grenade lol. Could be the cam adjuster, who knows...

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That’s a meaty sounding knock/tap. Sorry dude. When was the last time you took a look in there?
Old 10-03-2017 | 08:00 AM
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That’s a meaty sounding knock/tap. Sorry dude. When was the last time you took a look in there?
Almost a year ago when I did the head bolts. From what I could find it's likely the cam adjuster.

You can hear it's quite a bit louder on the passenger side. Probably normal on the driver.

So many examples of the same sound. Very similar to the bleed down ticking but not quite and this is when the oil is hot. Some said they replaced buckets, some say adjusters.


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Originally Posted by Jasonoff
Almost a year ago when I did the head bolts. From what I could find it's likely the cam adjuster.

You can hear it's quite a bit louder on the passenger side. Probably normal on the driver.

So many examples of the same sound. Very similar to the bleed down ticking but not quite and this is when the oil is hot. Some said they replaced buckets, some say adjusters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhuDc4wFhlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZokixB4m3Rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reAvS47tTYw
Yikes. Did you change tappets when you did your headbolts? How'd they look when you were in there?
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Old 10-03-2017 | 02:53 PM
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Yikes. Did you change tappets when you did your headbolts? How'd they look when you were in there?
Nope and they were fine on the exterior surface along with the cam lobes.

Maybe the internals break down preventing them from holding oil pressure.
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Nope and they were fine on the exterior surface along with the cam lobes.

Maybe the internals break down preventing them from holding oil pressure.
Could be a possibility. MERC63 posted a FS ad for the Black Series tappets a few days a go. Might be worth while exploring.
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Originally Posted by Jasonoff
Almost a year ago when I did the head bolts. From what I could find it's likely the cam adjuster.

You can hear it's quite a bit louder on the passenger side. Probably normal on the driver.

So many examples of the same sound. Very similar to the bleed down ticking but not quite and this is when the oil is hot. Some said they replaced buckets, some say adjusters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhuDc4wFhlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZokixB4m3Rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reAvS47tTYw
ok...the first video. I've only experienced it twice in the 3 years of ownership thus far. Mine was MUCH louder than yours both times (probably because I have long tubes). First time was with Mobil 1 0w-40...literally thought my engine was going to blow. Second was after i picked up my car from the shop from having a massive overhaul. Headbolts, Lifters, valve covers, oil cooler o-ring replaced, and reseal of both lower oil pans. Shop filled engine with LiquiMoly 5w-40 oil. Both times went away after driving away. With Mobil 1 it took me to get onto the freeway to have the noise stop. With LiquiMoly it took me 2 blocks of driving out of my neighborhood for the noise to stop. Noise never appeared with Motul 8100 and LiquiMoly MoS2.

the rest of your video's are what M156's sound like. I have brand new updated lifters so the only other thing it could be is cam adjusters. Maybe it could be something else entirely? honestly it has a similar tone to an exhaust leak even though it isn't an exhaust leak. back in my hay day when street racing was alive, all the ghettoest honda's with massive header gasket and collector gasket leaks would sound like that. not saying that's the case though, just mentioning the tone and loudness of the noise.

similarly from what i've seen on Nissans through the years of racing, the same sound is signaling to a collapsed or going to collapse lifter on a Nissan engine.

this is the sound of a fully collapsed Nissan Lifter
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Old 10-03-2017 | 10:09 PM
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The 3 videos you quoted from my post #42 are just examples I found on the youtubez (not mine).

My video from post #40 is what my car sounds like. It's only coming from the passenger side and it's not normal. Lifters, cam adjusters? Dunno yet...

It does however sound louder near the adjuster cover though.
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Jason I don't think the sound in your video is lifter clatter. I think it sounds harsher and more metallic. I think it sounds more like cam adjusters. Lifters sound more like marbles in a tin can, more of a ticking sound.
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Jason I don't think the sound in your video is lifter clatter. I think it sounds harsher and more metallic. I think it sounds more like cam adjusters. Lifters sound more like marbles in a tin can, more of a ticking sound.
I concur. She's much more quiet when the oil is cold as well.

Also, the fact it's only on the passenger side increases the odds of it being a noisy adjuster.

Cold oil...


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