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Figured you guys were just retarded claiming the car runs quieter on this stuff. I can confirm this as well or I'm just as retarded.
Less interior cabin noise from the engine was noticeable. Maybe the Mobil 0W40 was just breaking down too much?
Less interior cabin noise from the engine was noticeable. Maybe the Mobil 0W40 was just breaking down too much?
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Recently made the switch to Rotella and love it so far. Would anyone mind giving me a rundown of MOS2? Seems like a few guys use it and love it. Anything I should do? Look out for?
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Kinda off topic but when you guys are doing your oil change are you also draining the oil cooler everytime as well ? Last time I did it I drained both just wondering if both is required all the time.
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The ideal ratio of Ceratec to oil is around 6%. This means we'd want to add around 450-500 mL of Ceratec when changing the oil. From what I understand, Ceratec only last about 4-5 oil changes before re-treating the engine. Once you've cycled through the initial treatment and need to change the oil again, start the MoS2 treatment. For our oil capacity, I believe 400 mL (Around a can and a half) should suffice. Again, from what I understand, you use the MoS2 treatment as a sort of buffer until you need to do the Ceratec treatment again.
This is what I've come up with so far. Can anyone chime in and correct me if I'm wrong?
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Thanks for that link. Went on a Google hunt to find some answers and this is what I've come up with:
The ideal ratio of Ceratec to oil is around 6%. This means we'd want to add around 450-500 mL of Ceratec when changing the oil. From what I understand, Ceratec only last about 4-5 oil changes before re-treating the engine. Once you've cycled through the initial treatment and need to change the oil again, start the MoS2 treatment. For our oil capacity, I believe 400 mL (Around a can and a half) should suffice. Again, from what I understand, you use the MoS2 treatment as a sort of buffer until you need to do the Ceratec treatment again.
This is what I've come up with so far. Can anyone chime in and correct me if I'm wrong?
The ideal ratio of Ceratec to oil is around 6%. This means we'd want to add around 450-500 mL of Ceratec when changing the oil. From what I understand, Ceratec only last about 4-5 oil changes before re-treating the engine. Once you've cycled through the initial treatment and need to change the oil again, start the MoS2 treatment. For our oil capacity, I believe 400 mL (Around a can and a half) should suffice. Again, from what I understand, you use the MoS2 treatment as a sort of buffer until you need to do the Ceratec treatment again.
This is what I've come up with so far. Can anyone chime in and correct me if I'm wrong?
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Can anyone confirm my measurements (above) before I hit the order button on Amazon. Just want to make sure I'm not adding too much or too little... Going to start the Ceratec treatment for the first time.
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I have noisy lifters now with this oil. Probably going to ditch it and put the 0W40 M1 back in.
The initial observation of it running quieter was likely just fresh vs old oil.
The initial observation of it running quieter was likely just fresh vs old oil.
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I wonder why you're car seems to be noisy?
Could be the cam adjuster, who knows...
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You can hear it's quite a bit louder on the passenger side. Probably normal on the driver.
So many examples of the same sound. Very similar to the bleed down ticking but not quite and this is when the oil is hot. Some said they replaced buckets, some say adjusters.
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Almost a year ago when I did the head bolts. From what I could find it's likely the cam adjuster.
You can hear it's quite a bit louder on the passenger side. Probably normal on the driver.
So many examples of the same sound. Very similar to the bleed down ticking but not quite and this is when the oil is hot. Some said they replaced buckets, some say adjusters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhuDc4wFhlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZokixB4m3Rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reAvS47tTYw
You can hear it's quite a bit louder on the passenger side. Probably normal on the driver.
So many examples of the same sound. Very similar to the bleed down ticking but not quite and this is when the oil is hot. Some said they replaced buckets, some say adjusters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhuDc4wFhlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZokixB4m3Rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reAvS47tTYw
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Could be a possibility. MERC63 posted a FS ad for the Black Series tappets a few days a go. Might be worth while exploring.
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Almost a year ago when I did the head bolts. From what I could find it's likely the cam adjuster.
You can hear it's quite a bit louder on the passenger side. Probably normal on the driver.
So many examples of the same sound. Very similar to the bleed down ticking but not quite and this is when the oil is hot. Some said they replaced buckets, some say adjusters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhuDc4wFhlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZokixB4m3Rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reAvS47tTYw
You can hear it's quite a bit louder on the passenger side. Probably normal on the driver.
So many examples of the same sound. Very similar to the bleed down ticking but not quite and this is when the oil is hot. Some said they replaced buckets, some say adjusters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhuDc4wFhlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZokixB4m3Rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reAvS47tTYw
the rest of your video's are what M156's sound like. I have brand new updated lifters so the only other thing it could be is cam adjusters. Maybe it could be something else entirely? honestly it has a similar tone to an exhaust leak even though it isn't an exhaust leak. back in my hay day when street racing was alive, all the ghettoest honda's with massive header gasket and collector gasket leaks would sound like that. not saying that's the case though, just mentioning the tone and loudness of the noise.
similarly from what i've seen on Nissans through the years of racing, the same sound is signaling to a collapsed or going to collapse lifter on a Nissan engine.
this is the sound of a fully collapsed Nissan Lifter
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The 3 videos you quoted from my post #42 are just examples I found on the youtubez (not mine).
My video from post #40 is what my car sounds like. It's only coming from the passenger side and it's not normal. Lifters, cam adjusters? Dunno yet...
It does however sound louder near the adjuster cover though.
My video from post #40 is what my car sounds like. It's only coming from the passenger side and it's not normal. Lifters, cam adjusters? Dunno yet...
It does however sound louder near the adjuster cover though.
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Jason I don't think the sound in your video is lifter clatter. I think it sounds harsher and more metallic. I think it sounds more like cam adjusters. Lifters sound more like marbles in a tin can, more of a ticking sound.
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Also, the fact it's only on the passenger side increases the odds of it being a noisy adjuster.
Cold oil...
