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Old 07-06-2017, 10:27 AM
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Aircon - passenger side warm

I wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the more general section, as I assume the aircon system is the same.

I bought a C63 estate at the weekend (incredibly pleased with it!) but have just realised that the passenger side is not blowing anywhere near as cold as the drivers. I think it's just ambient air on that side, despite being set to the same temperature.

I'd heard a suggestion that it might be low refrigerant (and indeed I'm not 100% sure the drivers is as cool as it should be). I just tried turning off all the drivers side vents though, and passenger side was still warm. I was thinking that might force the cool air through the other vents.

So does it seem likely I have a stuck valve / flap somewhere? Anyone come across this before and have any suggestions? I've done a bit of googling, but not found much for this model.

Any help very gratefully received.
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Oh, I also found some mentions of a reset method for the aircon. But they all referred back to the method being described in full elsewhere, and I have not managed to find the source. Something about holding down the recirc and defrost buttons together?
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Originally Posted by bazzabear
I wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the more general section, as I assume the aircon system is the same.

I bought a C63 estate at the weekend (incredibly pleased with it!) but have just realised that the passenger side is not blowing anywhere near as cold as the drivers. I think it's just ambient air on that side, despite being set to the same temperature.

I'd heard a suggestion that it might be low refrigerant (and indeed I'm not 100% sure the drivers is as cool as it should be). I just tried turning off all the drivers side vents though, and passenger side was still warm. I was thinking that might force the cool air through the other vents.

So does it seem likely I have a stuck valve / flap somewhere? Anyone come across this before and have any suggestions? I've done a bit of googling, but not found much for this model.

Any help very gratefully received.
I suspect it is an air actuator on a flap. The split system is one AC system with the control system deciding what goes where. Have you had it checked for a code?

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I suspect it is an air actuator on a flap. The split system is one AC system with the control system deciding what goes where. Have you had it checked for a code?
Yes, to be honest, I don't think I'm lucky enough that a simple re-gas will sort the problem either. However, it's going in for one today just in case.

If that doesn't do the trick, and if no-one can confirm how to do a manual reset, then I think my next move will have to be to take it to a garage and see if there's a code and if they can find the fault.

Although I have to admit to being a little tempted by one of those carsoft i980's so I can check things myself.
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I'm rather surprised, and extremely pleased, to report back that the aircon recharge has completely fixed the problem.

It's actually surprising it was working at all - it only had 125g in, and it's supposed to have over 600. But it's like a fridge in there now, if you want it to be, so very pleased.

It raises the question of whether there's a leak, but it passed a 30 minutes vacuum check, so theoretically it shouldn't have.
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I'm rather surprised, and extremely pleased, to report back that the aircon recharge has completely fixed the problem.

It's actually surprising it was working at all - it only had 125g in, and it's supposed to have over 600. But it's like a fridge in there now, if you want it to be, so very pleased.

It raises the question of whether there's a leak, but it passed a 30 minutes vacuum check, so theoretically it shouldn't have.
Call me cynical but you do not get down to 125 g of refrigerant when a typical system would be 2-3 lb (900-1350 g) by consumption in a sealed system.
My car was parked for 8 weeks while I was down south in the spring. The AC was fine when I parked it and not working when I got back.
We found evidence of what was clearly a very tiny and slow leak in the evaporator.
My tech told me he likely would not have detected it in a test because it was so slow.
It is a $2000 fix here in BC.
Get a UV light and some amber UV glasses. The refrigerant will show green - the colour of money - when illuminated with UV.
You can see the evaporator through the lower grill behind the plate. Take a look. You might be surprised.
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640g I believe for this car.

And there's no sign that it's ever been re-gassed before, so that's after 4 years of use.

If it has a leak, it'll become clear soon enough. As you say, they've put the UV dye in it, so we can check then
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640g I believe for this car.

And there's no sign that it's ever been re-gassed before, so that's after 4 years of use.

If it has a leak, it'll become clear soon enough. As you say, they've put the UV dye in it, so we can check then
I just grabbed a number from memory but according to Behr it is actually 590 g. That said you still were down to 21% and you do not just lose that because the car is 4 yr old. Some? Yes. 80%? No.
I had a 1993 E320 which I drove to 296000km over 8 yr every day I had it except when on vacation and never lost enough to worry about out of miniscule transient leaks. Keep an eye.
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I just recently swapped out my AC pressure sensor.

It took 0.5lb of dye and 2.3lb of refrigerant to re-fill.
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I just recently swapped out my AC pressure sensor.

It took 0.5lb of dye and 2.3lb of refrigerant to re-fill.
Interesting. That is more than double the claimed weight for an empty system. I am going to ask my guys why that is.
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Interesting. That is more than double the claimed weight for an empty system. I am going to ask my guys why that is.
Where is the claimed weight listed? It's not in the owners manual. Maybe I got hosed lol...
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Where is the claimed weight listed? It's not in the owners manual. Maybe I got hosed lol...
I got it off of 2 sites one of which is Behr who of course builds their rad, ac and heater cores.
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My old man memory failed me. It was actually 1.3lbs.


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