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Old 09-21-2017, 09:36 AM
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Not quite. What you actually did was say that you're going to use meth and an underdrive pulley among other things. Even though the first just isn't going to be materially useful on an NA car, and the second isn't generally a great idea given the accessory demands and nature of the big 6.2L M156. And then when experienced people gave you opinions, you said something like "I'm sure it'll work great" and "I believe I'll be pushing over 500whp for sure", without any actual facts to back up either statement.

So either you're just trolling, or you're looking for someone to come in and support your dumb ideas. Your answers don't indicate someone who is looking for opinions. Go search for meth and see how many people have used it in the 10yrs this platform has been out. What's relevant in the smaller displacement forced induction world rarely holds true for this platform which is the polar opposite.

But whatever dude, if you're so sure have at it man and let us know how it turns out.
LOL Iím starting to realize that you actually donít read anything on these forumís. There have been a few people on the forms that have done methanol injection on this particular platform. Yes you can do it on naturally aspirated engines. You never said anything about the underdrive pulley being a bad idea you just made a rude comment towards me. You actually havenít said anything of substance until this comment.

if you actually read my post you would understand that we have terrible gas up here and thatís the whole reason I wanted to use methanol, so I could run a higher octane. But again you donít really read so there in lies the problem. 😂😂 thank you for saying something of substance instead of just comment trolling
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Not quite. What you actually did was say that you're going to use meth and an underdrive pulley among other things. Even though the first just isn't going to be materially useful on an NA car, and the second isn't generally a great idea given the accessory demands and nature of the big 6.2L M156. And then when experienced people gave you opinions, you said something like "I'm sure it'll work great" and "I believe I'll be pushing over 500whp for sure", without any actual facts to back up either statement.

So either you're just trolling, or you're looking for someone to come in and support your dumb ideas. Your answers don't indicate someone who is looking for opinions. Go search for meth and see how many people have used it in the 10yrs this platform has been out. What's relevant in the smaller displacement forced induction world rarely holds true for this platform which is the polar opposite.

But whatever dude, if you're so sure have at it man and let us know how it turns out.

And I actually provided website links from this for him to back up my claims
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Ok I'm going to chime in because I'm bored and there is nothing really going on the forum lately.

Meth injection is good for dropping air intake temps.i had it on my e55 and that thing would hit 200 degree air temps in an 80 degree day doing a few wot pulls.

Meth injection helps drop air temps and will do absolutely **** to help your poor gas quality.we have amazing intakes and the factory setup is perfect.

Go log your car and you will see how cold the air us compared to a boosted car.

If you have crap gas invest in mmt based octane boosters but be ready to go through O2 sensors or just run e85 if you have that gas near you.

Now let's jump to the underdrive pulley.i have ran my car on the Dyno over 15 times and done over 30 passes down the 1/4 mile.

Our cars keep making power on the Dyno up to about the 6th pull.its just the nature of our ecus and you will see once you go down the 1/4 mile that the car will keep getting faster and faster with the more passes you do.

That 447whp is right where the car should be with shorty headers and probably did just one run and didn't let the car adapt enough before trying the new pulley.
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Ok I'm going to chime in because I'm bored and there is nothing really going on the forum lately.

Meth injection is good for dropping air intake temps.i had it on my e55 and that thing would hit 200 degree air temps in an 80 degree day doing a few wot pulls.

Meth injection helps drop air temps and will do absolutely **** to help your poor gas quality.we have amazing intakes and the factory setup is perfect.

Go log your car and you will see how cold the air us compared to a boosted car.

If you have crap gas invest in mmt based octane boosters but be ready to go through O2 sensors or just run e85 if you have that gas near you.

Now let's jump to the underdrive pulley.i have ran my car on the Dyno over 15 times and done over 30 passes down the 1/4 mile.

Our cars keep making power on the Dyno up to about the 6th pull.its just the nature of our ecus and you will see once you go down the 1/4 mile that the car will keep getting faster and faster with the more passes you do.

That 447whp is right where the car should be with shorty headers and probably did just one run and didn't let the car adapt enough before trying the new pulley.
this is good info to no. Thank u. The meth info I got from this thread
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...on-63-amg.html
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this is good info to no. Thank u. The meth info I got from this thread
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...on-63-amg.html
There's basically zero info in that thread
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There's basically zero info in that thread
yeah it doesnít have much. But thereís other like it. Essentially fluid motor Union did it on a 63 engine and was successful but idk
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There's basically zero info in that thread
The only info there is the near-universal consensus that meth was unlikely to do anything for a number of good reasons. But what do real people know when you have muh internet.
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The only info there is the near-universal consensus that meth was unlikely to do anything for a number of good reasons. But what do real people know when you have muh internet.
thats one artcle of many blkcock. Like I said, u don’t really read the forums, cause you would have found that article and 3 other ones.

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thats on artcle of many blkcock. Like I said, u donít really read the forums, cause you would have found that article and 3 other ones.
This is what that article says: "yeah you can do meth injection. Will it work? We don't know..."

Not sure what you think you read in there so yeah...have fun running a 95-100 octane tune on 90 octane with this magic NA meth.
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This is what that article says: "yeah you can do meth injection. Will it work? We don't know..."

Not sure what you think you read in there so yeah...have fun running a 95-100 octane tune on 90 octane with this magic NA meth.
thatís what I mean. It hasnít been done but thanks
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thatís what I mean. It hasnít been done but thanks
You seem absolutely convinced that meth will solve your crap 90 octane fuel. Go install the meth system and tune your car to 95 octane and report back to us on how it went.
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You seem absolutely convinced that meth will solve your crap 90 octane fuel. Go install the meth system and tune your car to 95 octane and report back to us on how it went.
thatís what I plan to do.
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thatís what I plan to do.
You might need this when you report back to us....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-c63-amg...-/142512951287
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You might need this when you report back to us....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-c63-amg...-/142512951287
lol donít be dramatic. Plenty of other people have run NA meth kits. Thatís why they make them to begin with
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lol donít be dramatic. Plenty of other people have run NA meth kits. Thatís why they make them to begin with
The meth kit won't be the cause for killing your motor. Running a 95 octane tune on 90 octane fuel and believing that running meth will compensate it will be the reason.
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The meth kit won't be the cause for killing your motor. Running a 95 octane tune on 90 octane fuel and believing that running meth will compensate it will be the reason.
thatí may be true but meth is shown to boost is up to 10 octane points. Soo I doubt that will happen but weíll see.
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Why wouldn't spraying Methanol increase BOV? He's got 90 at the pump. Pretty sure it will make up the difference.

http://methanolfuels.wpengine.com/fuel-blending/
http://www.sunocoracefuels.com/tech-...hol-and-octane

Or just mix it in the tank for the absolute cheapest option.
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I would listen to these posters. They're not saying stuff because they're haters or don't want you to succeed and make more power. We all want more power. They're trying to stop you from potentially irreversibly harming your motor.
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i wouldn't no any of that by the rude way he conducts himself towards me and on many other threads... I've seen him on too many others just act like he's an authority on everything and like a dick
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Why wouldn't spraying Methanol increase BOV? He's got 90 at the pump. Pretty sure it will make up the difference.

http://methanolfuels.wpengine.com/fuel-blending/
http://www.sunocoracefuels.com/tech-...hol-and-octane

Or just mix it in the tank for the absolute cheapest option.
thatís my point too
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thatís my point too
Or move...
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thats on artcle of many blkcock. Like I said, u donít really read the forums, cause you would have found that article and 3 other ones.
You posted a thread that according to you doesn't have much info. Now you want to **** on an experienced and knowledgeable member for not citing a thread that doesn't even support your ignorant claims.

I'm starting to suspect you have an odd number of chromosomes.
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Start off small. Get a tune for 93 pump, run a small nozzle, use PURE Meth (not 50/50 or any other water/meth combo) and data log ignition advance. Review your graphs and see if the ecu is pulling timing. If it is, increase the nozzle size and repeat. If the car is running strong and not knocking, run your 95 octane tune and repeat the process of data logging.

Theres more to it but that's the easiest way to get the system running correctly.
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