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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 12:13 PM
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Does sound tempting. Same sort of numbers as weistec stage 2?
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 12:19 PM
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Mines not installed yet ... but the pictures I have seen look great, , very clean ☺
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 02:05 PM
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Do you have any pictures of the engine compartment after installation? I can't find any on the ESS web site.
Sure. Here's one. Fitment is excellent

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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by alexanderfoti
Does sound tempting. Same sort of numbers as weistec stage 2?
Weistec stage 2 is only a 2.3L Whipple. The ESS unit uses the same 2.9L Whipple as the Weistec stage 3
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 03:57 PM
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Sure. Here's one. Fitment is excellent

that looks almost stockish
are the prices the same?
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 04:08 PM
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Sure. Here's one. Fitment is excellent

Dude that looks awsome! I applaud all of you guys that are venturing out and trying new things. Going against the whole "tried and true" sentiment here on mbworld. Props!
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Brunty88


that looks almost stockish
are the prices the same?
I agree the fit and finish is almost OEM like. It does require trimming of the airboxes and front cover

Not sure what you mean by prices are same. Weistec stage 3 is several thousand dollars more than the ESS supercharger
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Dude that looks awsome! I applaud all of you guys that are venturing out and trying new things. Going against the whole "tried and true" sentiment here on mbworld. Props!
Thanks! I've always gone the path less traveled. You never know what's down it until you try. Sure it's more work but sometimes you end up with something amazing!
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 05:30 PM
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I agree the fit and finish is almost OEM like. It does require trimming of the airboxes and front cover

Not sure what you mean by prices are same. Weistec stage 3 is several thousand dollars more than the ESS supercharger

Thanks! I've always gone the path less traveled. You never know what's down it until you try. Sure it's more work but sometimes you end up with something amazing!
so that is your car? How do you like the kit? Power ect ect. Also if you have headers did they provide the correct tune for that or do you have to go custom route?
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 08:38 PM
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so that is your car? How do you like the kit? Power ect ect. Also if you have headers did they provide the correct tune for that or do you have to go custom route?
Yes it is my car. I just got it on so not much data yet. I do have headers and they tuned my ecu. Will keep you guys updated. Plan on taking it to the track in March
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 02:00 AM
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Yes it is my car. I just got it on so not much data yet. I do have headers and they tuned my ecu. Will keep you guys updated. Plan on taking it to the track in March
i aksed how the price so pared to a weistec kit so yes that it is cheaper awesome
how did the tuning work obd or live?
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 07:49 AM
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i aksed how the price so pared to a weistec kit so yes that it is cheaper awesome
how did the tuning work obd or live?
I sent the ECU into ESS for the tune
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What would be the best option for somebody not wanting to do trans work (on a Facelift MCT box). I assume the ESS kit with the 3L Whipple @ Weistec stage 2 levels would result in same power levels with lower boost therefore lower IAT's?

Its $9k vs $10K then essentially? but the 9K gets you a larger Whipple
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by alexanderfoti
What would be the best option for somebody not wanting to do trans work (on a Facelift MCT box). I assume the ESS kit with the 3L Whipple @ Weistec stage 2 levels would result in same power levels with lower boost therefore lower IAT's?

Its $9k vs $10K then essentially? but the 9K gets you a larger Whipple
no you need the stage 3 kit to get the bigger supercharger from Weistec.
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 12:19 PM
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Sure. Here's one. Fitment is excellent

Oh that's pretty.

I like how you don't even notice it unless you're looking.
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 12:32 PM
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no you need the stage 3 kit to get the bigger supercharger from Weistec.
Yes I know but ESS and Stage 2 from Weistec claim similar power levels.
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by alexanderfoti
What would be the best option for somebody not wanting to do trans work (on a Facelift MCT box). I assume the ESS kit with the 3L Whipple @ Weistec stage 2 levels would result in same power levels with lower boost therefore lower IAT's?

Its $9k vs $10K then essentially? but the 9K gets you a larger Whipple
The ESS tune is supposed to help with the transmission. Id agree with your theory but don't have a definitive answer in practice.

Yes you get the larger Whipple with ESS
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
The ESS tune is supposed to help with the transmission. Id agree with your theory but don't have a definitive answer in practice.

Yes you get the larger Whipple with ESS
Thank you sir, am in talks with ESS now.
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Old Jan 22, 2018 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by alexanderfoti
What would be the best option for somebody not wanting to do trans work (on a Facelift MCT box). I assume the ESS kit with the 3L Whipple @ Weistec stage 2 levels would result in same power levels with lower boost therefore lower IAT's?

Its $9k vs $10K then essentially? but the 9K gets you a larger Whipple
the TVS2300 is more efficient than the Whipple 2.9L until you get into the higher flow parts of the compressor map. from there the Whipple 2.9L is more efficient and returns less heat which in turn produces more power. this can be attributed to the volume of the blower as well as the type of rotors being used.
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Yes it is my car. I just got it on so not much data yet. I do have headers and they tuned my ecu. Will keep you guys updated. Plan on taking it to the track in March
How much boost are you running and do you know what you the increase in power you got form N/A w/headers vs now is?
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Old Jan 23, 2018 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by iShootYou
How much boost are you running and do you know what you the increase in power you got form N/A w/headers vs now is?
8psi and I don't know the difference yet. Hoping for 150+whp gains but more importantly for me better 1/4 Mile times
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Old Jan 23, 2018 | 03:26 PM
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FWIW, when added to this system, headers don't give anywhere near the increases they do as when added to the N/A engine system. I'll have my car dynoed after ESS system is installed so I should have hp/torque increase numbers. ESS says up to +150 on pp car (as initial hp it starts higher, tuned from the factory) and up to +180 to stock. Mine is stock P30 except power pipes.
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those numbers are with the 93 octane / 8psi pulley
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FWIW, when added to this system, headers don't give anywhere near the increases they do as when added to the N/A engine system. I'll have my car dynoed after ESS system is installed so I should have hp/torque increase numbers. ESS says up to +150 on pp car (as initial hp it starts higher, tuned from the factory) and up to +180 to stock. Mine is stock P30 except power pipes.
how would you come to that conclusion about headers? It would add the same amount of power. A restriction is a restriction. Why would you get less horsepower from headers when you add a supercharger? That is not factual.
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You will actually probably pick up more with headers on a supercharged car as the restriction is more restrictive as you are increasing the amount of exhaust it has to flow after installing a supercharger
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you would think so, but they found minimal gains when adding headers, at least to that particular system with that boost. I'll try to find the discussion, it actually came up on a BMW board...
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