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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 08:40 PM
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ARH Headers installed and have some rattles HELP

Got my car back from the shop with the installed ARH headers and v7 tune. Car sounds amazing, but there is this weird rattle/vibration I am getting when I floor it. The throttle pedal at like 3-4k rpm vibrates pretty bad--pretty sure its not supposed to do that. Any thoughts?
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 11:35 PM
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What your experiencing is “NVH” , the headers might be hitting the subframe or a part of the car which then will vibrate into the cabin . Check to see if any of the pipes are resting or touching any part of the car underneath and either adjust the section off the manifold itself or if it’s a design flaw just simply pry between contacted area till there is no contact .
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 07:48 AM
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It sounds like they may be contacting at wide open throttle. Check the clearance and make adjustments if possible. Also check the condition of the engine mounts. Hopefully it's an easy fix
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 11:59 AM
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Look up my ARH header install thread. You have to retighten the clamps and add spacers to your cross bar. You need to add a half inch spacer to the cross bar. The rattling you're hearing is the pipes hitting the cross bar.
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 02:15 PM
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Happy to hear this isn’t just my problem but sorry that it is affecting more people. It took me several days of adjusting and even cutting a half inch off one side of the x pipe before I got mine sorted from a vibration stand point. And I still have a small rattle and the tips stick out too much.

I would take take it back to the shop that installed it. If possible.
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by I am Jeff
Look up my ARH header install thread. You have to retighten the clamps and add spacers to your cross bar. You need to add a half inch spacer to the cross bar. The rattling you're hearing is the pipes hitting the cross bar.
This.
I had to put spacers under the cross bar as well when I fitted IPE headers and mid pipes.
No rattles after that.
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 02:34 PM
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I don’t think it’s the cross bar, I think it’s the header touching the heat shield... I can hear the engine idle and belts and pulleys inside the cabin clear as day like it’s pumping the sound through the speakers. I’m going back to the shop late today to sort it out.
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 02:43 PM
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The headers do run close to the heat shields. Get the installer to check the clearance.
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 03:23 PM
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I had to "massage" my heat shields with a hammer. I never had rattling up front.
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 04:34 PM
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My heat shields also came loose and rattled. This was before I got headers installed but I imagine its a pretty common issue on our cars.
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 04:42 PM
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My heat shields also came loose and rattled. This was before I got headers installed but I imagine its a pretty common issue on our cars.
Nope. I've never had my heatshield rattle or come loose.
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 07:39 PM
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So we fixed all the issues.

Throttle pedal vibration was coming from driver side bracket touching the O2 sensor.

Vibrations/sounds were fixed from putting the spacers on the cross bar, and playing with the foil heat shield. It was rubbing pretty bad.

Thanks for for all the help.
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Curious what you used for spacers. Thanks in advance.

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I had to put spacers under the cross bar as well when I fitted IPE headers and mid pipes.
No rattles after that.
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Old Jun 2, 2018 | 01:54 PM
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Curious what you used for spacers. Thanks in advance.
I turned up 2 aluminum spacers in my workshop. I think I made them 15mm thick.
Then used a new bolt which was 15mm longer.
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only 2? I thought the bar goes the width of the bottom of the car.



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I turned up 2 aluminum spacers in my workshop. I think I made them 15mm thick.
Then used a new bolt which was 15mm longer.
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Old Jun 3, 2018 | 12:34 AM
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You running stock resonators and mufflers? Catless x pipe? I'd love to hear how it sounds.I just ordered ARH.
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only 2? I thought the bar goes the width of the bottom of the car.
It's not the entire width of the car, but most of it.
But, it only bolts on at 2 points, one on either side of the car.
I did this quite some time ago. It's possible it was 2 points on either side, in which case we turned up 4 spacers.
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Originally Posted by Savage-wp
It's not the entire width of the car, but most of it.
But, it only bolts on at 2 points, one on either side of the car.
I did this quite some time ago. It's possible it was 2 points on either side, in which case we turned up 4 spacers.
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There are 2 mounting points on each side, so a total of 4 spacers is needed.
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There are 2 mounting points on each side, so a total of 4 spacers is needed.
Thanks for confirming, I was going to slide under the car to confirm.
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Where would I buy the spacers?


QUOTE=I am Jeff;7440028]Look up my ARH header install thread. You have to retighten the clamps and add spacers to your cross bar. You need to add a half inch spacer to the cross bar. The rattling you're hearing is the pipes hitting the cross bar.[/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by jemnoriega
Where would I buy the spacers?
If you can't find spacers you can stack up the correct size washers and get longer bolts to lower the bar so that it doesn't interfere, if that is the source of the vibration. There are four bolts attaching the bar to the chassis, two on each side.
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A useful discussion:

https://www.engineersedge.com/wwwboard/posts/11506.html
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