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Old 05-16-2018, 12:21 PM
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W204 C63 VS 2014-2016 E63

Looking to trade in my c63 2013 for a E63. I am just really on edge about it. I love my c63 I honestly wouldn't trade this car for the world but I need more power and a stage 2 blower just does not seem it will satisfy my needs lol. With tune and down pipes on e63 it just blows that 15k blower out of the water for the c63. I would just like some honest opinions on the switch as well as pros and cons. My c63 currently has tune and mbh headers. Thanks guys. Honest feedback is highly appreciated
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The E63s seems to trap around 130mph with a tune, so I believe even a Stage 1/2 C63 would keep up with a tune/DP E63s. There are a lot of offerings for superchargers now, with some options as low as 8k, like the ESS and Magnuson kits.

If you can afford a supercharger, I would do that. A supercharged C63 will absolutely out perform the E63s. If you want the comfort of the E63, then go that route. Either way, you'll be spending 10k or more to upgrade to the E63 vs supercharging the C63.
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I wanted to go with the stage two Weistech but its only 538 whp and that's basically a stock e63. I really don't want the comfort because I love the c63 seats there is nothing like it. The c63 is just perfect its like a little go cart lol. I just really need more power im stuck between the blower and e63 I really don't know what to do.
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I wanted to go with the stage two Weistech but its only 538 whp and that's basically a stock e63. I really don't want the comfort because I love the c63 seats there is nothing like it. The c63 is just perfect its like a little go cart lol. I just really need more power im stuck between the blower and e63 I really don't know what to do.
look at the ESS kit with the 8 psi pulley. It is a far superior kit in my opinion for less. You will put out much more then 538 wheel.
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Old 05-16-2018, 02:26 PM
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I wanted to go with the stage two Weistech but its only 538 whp and that's basically a stock e63. I really don't want the comfort because I love the c63 seats there is nothing like it. The c63 is just perfect its like a little go cart lol. I just really need more power im stuck between the blower and e63 I really don't know what to do.

The E63 also weighs 600lbs. more than the C63. A tune and LTH C63 can trap what they do stock, around 119mph. Trust me, a supercharged C63 walks on an E63. Just go with a blower. It sounds like you want to keep the C63, anyway.
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The E63 also weighs 600lbs. more than the C63. A tune and LTH C63 can trap what they do stock, around 119mph. Trust me, a supercharged C63 walks on an E63. Just go with a blower. It sounds like you want to keep the C63, anyway.
As a person that has own both cars at the same time, I bought both of them for different reasons. The C63 is a little faster then the E63, as its not carrying around the added weight. And yes, the E63 does have more power and torque but that's negated by the extra girth.
I would stick with the C63, it's much easier to make it go faster without lugging around extra weight, unless your looking for a more comfort which the E63 has in spades.
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I have never really heard of ess or seen anyone with there blower systems, plus I don't like anyone that specialize in BMW LMAOOOOOO. @yullie36 it looks like you have the older model e63 I am looking into the 2014 and up version. You guys pretty much have me decided on the blower I'm just hoping I will be able to gain as much power as I need. I Think I will go with the stage 2 weistech unless anyone has anymore reviews on the Magnuson or ess. Thanks everyone I really appreciate it
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I have never really heard of ess or seen anyone with there blower systems, plus I don't like anyone that specialize in BMW LMAOOOOOO. @yullie36 it looks like you have the older model e63 I am looking into the 2014 and up version. You guys pretty much have me decided on the blower I'm just hoping I will be able to gain as much power as I need. I Think I will go with the stage 2 weistech unless anyone has anymore reviews on the Magnuson or ess. Thanks everyone I really appreciate it
The ESS kit is very good, that's what I'll be getting when I go SC. Good choice on keeping the C63, I think it'll be plenty of power. More than you're expecting.
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I'm going to look into ess a little more I don't see too many reviews on them but I will dig a little deeper. I love the c63 and for the money there really is no substitute
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I'm going to look into ess a little more I don't see too many reviews on them but I will dig a little deeper. I love the c63 and for the money there really is no substitute
I would definitively look into ESS. They are pushing about 570whp on 6psi. 8psi pulley is well over 600whp. You already have the headers!

Couple guys on here have it and only positive feedback has transpired. They make excellent S/C for BMW.

I also find the 5.5LTT underwhelming. Gobs of torque but not an exciting motor. The 6.2 has a lot more soul I would say. That`s also something to think about.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...?highlight=ESS
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...-1-4-mile.html

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...tallation.html

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I have never really heard of ess or seen anyone with there blower systems, plus I don't like anyone that specialize in BMW LMAOOOOOO. @yullie36 it looks like you have the older model e63 I am looking into the 2014 and up version. You guys pretty much have me decided on the blower I'm just hoping I will be able to gain as much power as I need. I Think I will go with the stage 2 weistech unless anyone has anymore reviews on the Magnuson or ess. Thanks everyone I really appreciate it
Weistec now tunes BMWs LOL

But in saying that there new GEN3 is killing the competition 640whp on a australian dyno which is like 700whp on amercian dyno on 10psi which is there base pulley

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The E63s seems to trap around 130mph with a tune, so I believe even a Stage 1/2 C63 would keep up with a tune/DP E63s. There are a lot of offerings for superchargers now, with some options as low as 8k, like the ESS and Magnuson kits.

If you can afford a supercharger, I would do that. A supercharged C63 will absolutely out perform the E63s. If you want the comfort of the E63, then go that route. Either way, you'll be spending 10k or more to upgrade to the E63 vs supercharging the C63.
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the only reason to go to the E would be to get a wagon. Short of that forget it. Lots more rattles, suspension isnt nearly as confident when you're pushing it hard. The m157 makes power more easily however it can be a headache. It's much more complex and temper-mental with direct injection. If you cant justify the E other than power. Just do a stage 3 kit and run a larger pulley to run less boost, should get you in the high 500's no problem. The blower changes the way the car drives entirely even without being heavy on the throttle. It's like dropping a 10.0L engine in. instant torque. go drive an older 55 kompressor car. Think about what it lacks and what yours lacks. Let them have the sexuals together and you end up with a blown m156.
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You guys are the best, I really appreciate everyone's feedback, I am going to pull the trigger on the weistech and keep the c.
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You guys are the best, I really appreciate everyone's feedback, I am going to pull the trigger on the weistech and keep the c.
Noice!

When you get the SC make sure to post a thread of the install and results.
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You guys are the best, I really appreciate everyone's feedback, I am going to pull the trigger on the weistech and keep the c.
I won't lie, I'm just slightly jealous.
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I won't lie, I'm just slightly jealous.
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Rest assured I will post results and when I get shipment from weistech
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