3.06 final drive swap - game changer!
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The 3.06 fits in the diff just fine... it’s the same ring and pinion as used in the slk55/clk55/c55 which is basically the same unit as in the c63 ( don’t remember what the e63 uses for a housing but I believe it’s the same hag215 axle design
I don’t think the Chrysler has the same housing so I doubt you can just bolt the entire chrysler unit in but I may be wrong if you can that would be the way to go if you can find one with a lsd and just bolt the unit in
I don’t think the Chrysler has the same housing so I doubt you can just bolt the entire chrysler unit in but I may be wrong if you can that would be the way to go if you can find one with a lsd and just bolt the unit in
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The diff is the easy part. Good luck on the TCU/ABS/ESC programming.
The diff is the easy part. Good luck on the TCU/ABS/ESC programming.
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The diff is the easy part. Good luck on the TCU/ABS/ESC programming.
The diff is the easy part. Good luck on the TCU/ABS/ESC programming.
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The diff is the easy part. Good luck on the TCU/ABS/ESC programming.
The diff is the easy part. Good luck on the TCU/ABS/ESC programming.
TCU tuning is now pretty available - @5soko in NY/Tri-State does it, and I can also do it. Couple other places here and there as well!
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TCU tuning is now pretty available - @5soko in NY/Tri-State does it, and I can also do it. Couple other places here and there as well!
Thanks!
Dave
Thanks!
Dave
However what we’re talking about here is getting a shorter final drive gear to get along with the TCU, ABS and ESC units. 3.06 modified vs 2.82 stock. Without correct coding for all three, it won’t work at all. (see above)
Are you saying that EC can do this for the TCU? And could you explain how exactly please? What about the other dependent control modules?
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What I would like to know is if the TCU from 2007 E63 (M156-W211) can be re-flashed/programmed via directly connecting to the electrical connector or via the OBD socket? The TCU for this sits inside the Transmission on top of the Valve Body and has an electrical connector that sticks out on the Passenger Side Front and fits through a hole from the bottom of the Tranny. The make of the TCU is Siemans VDO, Part # A 033 846 73 32, VGS2-NAG2. I've been told that "Tony" from Race IQ in Atlanta can do this but after talking with one his associates who operates locally here in S. Florida told me that he doesn't think it can be done??? He of course hasn't returned my call either. I'm sitting here about to replace the Rear Bushings, Hubs, Flanges Rotors and have the bits to rebuild the E63 differential. I also bought a Diff from a 2005-2007 SRT8 from Challenger, 300C with 3.06 Gears, but I'm holding back on getting a LSD until I know I can get the TCU calibration done for 2.82 to 3.06 Rear diff ratio??
Can someone let me know if the have a similar TCU and have had this swap done successfully? If so, please let me know who I should get in touch with to have my TCU recalibrated?
Getting ready for a Hurricane tonight, so I'll be hunkered down waiting for an answer!!!
Can someone let me know if the have a similar TCU and have had this swap done successfully? If so, please let me know who I should get in touch with to have my TCU recalibrated?
Getting ready for a Hurricane tonight, so I'll be hunkered down waiting for an answer!!!
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Only you would question a Forum Sponsor/Vendor in such a condescending manner... I bet you're parents are real proud of the ****ing douche they raised. But if they're from Ontario too, it's par for course.
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I understand that TCU tuning for faster shifts and increased line pressures is available. I’ve had mine tuned since 2015.
However what we’re talking about here is getting a shorter final drive gear to get along with the TCU, ABS and ESC units. 3.06 modified vs 2.82 stock. Without correct coding for all three, it won’t work at all. (see above)
Are you saying that EC can do this for the TCU? And could you explain how exactly please? What about the other dependent control modules?
However what we’re talking about here is getting a shorter final drive gear to get along with the TCU, ABS and ESC units. 3.06 modified vs 2.82 stock. Without correct coding for all three, it won’t work at all. (see above)
Are you saying that EC can do this for the TCU? And could you explain how exactly please? What about the other dependent control modules?
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Celicasaur,
I'm not sure. I understand when you say the bigger Gear needed to be honed inside the Chrysler Diff?? Had not the bigger gear come from the Chrysler Diff in the first place???
So Again, did you take the Ring & Pinion from the Chrysler SRT8 and swap into the AMG Diff? Please read my previous post and answer accordingly so we can all be certain of how to go about making the plunge to make this conversion.
I'm not sure. I understand when you say the bigger Gear needed to be honed inside the Chrysler Diff?? Had not the bigger gear come from the Chrysler Diff in the first place???
So Again, did you take the Ring & Pinion from the Chrysler SRT8 and swap into the AMG Diff? Please read my previous post and answer accordingly so we can all be certain of how to go about making the plunge to make this conversion.
Ok so I had the diffs removed out of both casings because i needed to mate the AMG lsd to the Chrysler ring n pinion...which then meant homing them both as one unit into the Chrysler casing. I hope that helps to clear things up. You do however need to use the AMG flange which connects the diff to the propshaft.
Here's a quote of mine from the OP:
"After the shop had done the work (new bearings installed of course), it was time to finally fit the 3.06 ring gear and LSD into the Chrysler casing which now has the AMG propshaft flange."
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So the question wasn’t answered either which is interesting. Do you really think the required TCU coding for this can be done via OBD2? What else, probably ABS/ESC too? I didn’t think so but I’d be happy to be wrong here...
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Thanks dude, I was just asking a question. Guy needs to relax.
So the question wasn’t answered either which is interesting. Do you really think the required TCU coding for this can be done via OBD2? What else, probably ABS/ESC too? I didn’t think so but I’d be happy to be wrong here...
So the question wasn’t answered either which is interesting. Do you really think the required TCU coding for this can be done via OBD2? What else, probably ABS/ESC too? I didn’t think so but I’d be happy to be wrong here...
Worth mentioning though, I remember a little while back that RENNtech claimed they could tune the TCU on the W212 turbo cars via ODB (torque limiters and all that jazz, I didn't see anything about gear ratio's though). Maybe something exists, but it hasn't gone mainstream yet
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It's ok. You didn't understand the legit technical question and assumed it was condescending. It happens.
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The tuning that @5soko and myself offer allows exactly what this thread is about 
In addition to all the benefits of a TCU tune like faster times, better, smoother shifting, higher line pressure, etc. You do have the ability to change your final drive if you'd like to something more aggressive. All software changes, all done through the OBD2 port.
Let me know if you have any questions!
Thanks!
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In addition to all the benefits of a TCU tune like faster times, better, smoother shifting, higher line pressure, etc. You do have the ability to change your final drive if you'd like to something more aggressive. All software changes, all done through the OBD2 port.Let me know if you have any questions!
Thanks!
Dave
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The tuning that @5soko and myself offer allows exactly what this thread is about In addition to all the benefits of a TCU tune like faster times, better, smoother shifting, higher line pressure, etc. You do have the ability to change your final drive if you'd like to something more aggressive. All software changes, all done through the OBD2 port.
Let me know if you have any questions!
Thanks!
Dave
In addition to all the benefits of a TCU tune like faster times, better, smoother shifting, higher line pressure, etc. You do have the ability to change your final drive if you'd like to something more aggressive. All software changes, all done through the OBD2 port.Let me know if you have any questions!
Thanks!
Dave
3.06 or 3.27 with a 7600rpm auto-shift would be so nice going WOT from 70mph-1000mph.
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That’s a slam-dunk then, thanks @DavesMeanE's 
When are you guys back in CA - this can only be done in-person, right?
When are you guys back in CA - this can only be done in-person, right?
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@DavesMeanE's, do you know if Eurocharged Canada will have this capability at some point?
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@DavesMeanE's, do you know if Eurocharged Canada will have this capability at some point?
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