C7_To_C63

Hi all,

I just sold my C7 Corvette, and as I'm looking for something more practical/family friendly I figured I'd look into a C63.

I'm looking to spend around $30,000-35,000, and get a 2012-2015 (the last gen, no bi-turbo) C63, ideally something that wont loose much value.

I came across this listing (https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=198425851), and would love to hear your thoughts on price (if it's a good deal as it says it is?)

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like 2012-2015 C63 have a hard time being sold? Most of the C63 I see have been for sale for 60+ days

K507

Carfax reports an accident which would make me nervous...would look for a used P31 for better resale and options...there is always another car right around the corner so don't be in a hurry.

Crya

iTrader: (1)

That car is weird. Appears to have a mix of CF and wood trims. Yuck. "Ideally something that won't lose value"? You're kidding, I know. No matter how much we love these cars, no matter what notion of collectibility we have, they will lose value.
But yeah, my ideal car would be a P31 car, carbon fiber, LSD, lowish mileage. There are some nice examples for sale right now on here!

roadkillrob

Ya think I would stay away - those 2 little pieces of carbon are weird, but doubt that indicates anything but the last owner starting to cover the trim or started to buy the pieces - can't see any other reason.

The carfax however is a bit weird, first owner listed as a Rental for 1 year 1 month is a bit odd - maybe dealer employee driven, maybe a service loaner and then auctioned - that scares me a little that it was auctioned after a year. Second owner had what appears to be 2 accidents - rear end damage in march 2017 and front end damage reported in december 2017 and then he traded the car and dealer immediately sent it to auction.

Not what I would look for in history of a car, especially since I would not say it is a particularly great price - 2012's should be in the 32-35k range with 35-45k miles and this one doesn't really have any options so should be at the low end and some of the options the dealer lists the car doesn't have - it doesn't have memory seats, it has the manual seats (they have power recline and power lumbar, rest is manual like front back adjust.

And on top of it all it has been for sale almost a year and they have dropped it 5k, so no one wants it - they don't sit that long if they are any good at a decent price, they are probably getting closer to moving it but I would look for a better car.

Also someone here had the VIN decoded back in the July that was looking at the car - it was his only post and he obviously didnt buy it

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ml#post7516246

So here is the datacard https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...b5da877469.pdf

SactownP31

The standard/regular car are a dime a dozen so you could probably find one that's been sitting for a while and get it near wholesale. P31 and 507s, well that's a different story. They're simply the better cars and for people who care, they're the car worth holding off for.

roadkillrob

Where are you located, here in the Boston area even base C63 sells quick as they don't come up very often for sale as there are not a lot of them around.

C7_To_C63

Thanks everyone for your comments. I think at $28,550 it sounds like a steal of a deal. I also managed to find the last owner (what a luck!), who noted the accident was very minor, and told me how the first owner was some Chinese woman/student that didn't actually use the car to it's capabilities at all. Interesting story.

I'm located in Jacksonville, FL (North Florida).

Adi-Benz

For the record (as I've been looking at c7's), the vettes depreciate more than the C's, believe it or not.

roadkillrob

Both accidents - there are 2 separate ones reported on the carfax about 9 months apart, one said rear/side and one front

AMGonFire

curt.r

For $28,550 it's a decent deal, but with the weird history of the car I'd call it a fair price at best. With two accidents and a clear lack of pride of ownership (and a very weird carbon fiber wrapped wood trim) I personally wouldn't even consider this car. In addition to that, it is a base C63. To swap an LSD into the car it'd set you back at least $2-3k for a Quaife LSD. From what I've heard an LSD is a must if you plan on driving your C63 on some backroads. I have only driven LSD C63's, so I cannot attest to that. As far as "ideally something that wont loose much value" a base C63 will not hold it's value. More so if you plan on putting a ton of miles on it.

Peterc63

curt.r

...Can you elaborate on this?

Peterc63

curt.r

I guess to each their own, but I didn't buy the P31 pkg for the raised speed limiter or the different tune, I bought it for the forged, lighter weight (supposed SLS internals, but I'm not going to open that can of worms) internals. There is definitely a difference between a p31 and a non p31 car, I've smoked plenty of the non p31 cars on the highway stock for stock (in Mexico, obviously ). Yes, the P31 isn't necessary but it certainly doesn't hurt to have forged pistons, lightweight conrods and a revised crank. If you can afford to get one, then I'd say go for it. If you can't then a regular C63 is still plenty enough. Also, it's safe to say a no accident, low miles, well maintained, P31 pkg, LSD car will stand out more than a matching spec C63 without the P31 pkg. That being said, is it as special as a BS or even a 507? Hell no. My prediction is that the pristine BS and 507's will appreciate years from now. But, if you're looking to buy a regular C63 as an investment, that's a terrible way to invest your money.

AMG6.3

Peterc63

curt.r

Mainly, the point of the P31 pkg is the forged internals, but you already knew that. The P31 pkg C63 seems to rev quicker than the regular C63's (meaning faster acceleration), thanks to the lighter internals/reduced rotational mass. Also, you will notice a difference if you plan on doing power mods to the "monster motor". The lightweight forged internals will help the motor last longer at the higher hp levels as the stresses are lower without the additional weight on the end. As an added bonus, the forged rod and pistons will help with higher horsepower numbers because with lighter weight pistons you would reduce the amount of energy the engine has to waste in order move around all the other pistons that aren't in the power stroke. As far as what car stands out, that's just a personal opinion, we'll just have to beg to differ.

Our W204 C63's will most definitely go down in price way before they start to go up. In a few years from now, the FL C63's will most likely be in the price range of the PFL C63's (that's my prediction anyways). I cannot see the price of W205 C63/s lowering to $30-40k and the FL W204 C63 maintaining a $30-40k price range.

Yes, regardless of what C63 you get, at the end of the day it is one of the last of its breed, which sadly, will most likely never be recreated again.

EDIT: Just re-read what you posted, where did you read that the forged rods and pistons are heavier?
EDIT 2: Sorry for the thread hi-jack OP, I just noticed it got a little out of hand haha. Hope the C63 search is going OK

Peterc63

curt.r

Wait, back up a couple steps here... I was having a civil conversation with you about C63's in regards to the P31 pkg... when did my *** get hurt that because of your opinion of the p31 pkg? Also, when did I act like the p31 is invincible? I said it has its perks to it, any person with a brain knows that no motor is invincible. Also, a bad tuned engine can only handle so much, regardless of the internals. Point is, don't hire a sh*tty tuner.

I never said the regular M156 wasn't stout, they're a great engine. I agree, the masses are not concerned with huge power figures, and I'm included in that as of right now. Later down the road, yes I plan on doing some crazy things with my car but I'm satisfied with it right now. As you said yourself in your thread bashing Weistec, and I quote,

Peterc63

curt.r

You said the "p31 doesn't mean crap." I asked for you to elaborate on it, as I was curious as to why you said that. I didn't jump, on the contrary, I was curious as to what your knowledge of the p31 was. I'm always looking to expand on my knowledge, whether it be from the internet, or old-fashioned discussion. That being said, I re-read my comments, but couldn't find anything outstandingly offensive about them, nor could I find anything where I took offense (minus my most recent post, obviously). I wasn't trying to toot my own horn about the P31 pkg, I was just saying if you have the means to get one, I'd highly recommend it. I never recall intentionally drawing attention to me and the fact that my car is a P31 pkg. While I did make some references, it was only because I was confused as to where you got your information... not to say "Oh, look at me! I have a P31 pkg!". Regardless, I agree with you. I do not want this to turn into an argument, nor do I want it to continue as an unintentional non P31 vs. P31 pkg conversation. If you wish to talk about this further, I'd be more than happy to discuss this over a PM.

Sorry for the major thread jack OP...and yeah, OP like Peterc63 said, find a clean, lower mileage C63 with 0 accidents and service history. Best of luck on the search!

skullbox15

Yea I'd try to find one for sale by an enthusiast who did oil changes ever 3-4k miles. Stay away from the high mileage ones unless you can verify the condition the camshafts.

///Bruce

To the OP, I found my wife's 2013 C63 AMG coupe w the Dev Pkg. White on red/black at a dealership. It was certified and we then extended that warranty. It had ~22K on it and now has ~56K miles. It's been in the shop 4(?) times. Twice for alignments, once for servicing the tranny and once for a weird shifting problem we had for a few weeks. It's fine now. She drives it fast (~160) but does not abuse it. There are cars out there, but you need to know what to look for and what to ask if possible.

Get the 13 or 14 years with either the AMG Development Package or the 507 Edition. Both good cars.