C63 AMG (W204) 2008 - 2015
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

PreFL vs FL styling opinions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 12-03-2018, 11:06 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Sanders27's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Virginia
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C63 AMG
PreFL vs FL styling opinions

As I continue my search for another 63, my first being an 09, I keep wondering if anyone else out there prefers some of the styling cues on the preFL model.

In particular, the double 'vents' on the front bumper and the mechanical screen deployment on the inside. Those are two things I love on the pre models. I think the screen takes me back to Voltron when they would hop in the lions and their hud would flip up

I know the FL has a lot of mechanical plusses, the single fin grill, the drls, etc. But just curious if I am alone in liking the two other things.
Old 12-03-2018, 11:27 PM
  #2  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
AMGonFire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,194
Received 146 Likes on 111 Posts
2012 c63 AMG, 2011 GLK 350, 2019 GLS 450
The side of the bumper is the only thing I like better on the pfl. In my opinion everything else is better and more modern in comparison.
Old 12-04-2018, 12:14 AM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
deadlyvt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,293
Received 396 Likes on 268 Posts
2010 C63 AMG
I also like the pre facelift front end a lot more looks more aggressive in my opinion even the rear with out the circular diffuser as opposed to the rear facelift version... interior wise I think the facelift is a little better though I like the gauges on the pre facelift other than that though the rest of the fl interior seems newer and of better quality
Old 12-04-2018, 01:54 AM
  #4  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
G_Money's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: 'Merica
Posts: 1,796
Received 148 Likes on 123 Posts
'04 E55 (Gone but not forgotten), '13 C63 P31 (RIP), another '13 C63 PP
^^agreed. I think the PFL front clip looks much more aggressive. Then again, I do rather like DRLs, even though they aren't really as special as they used to be.
Old 12-04-2018, 03:28 AM
  #5  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
m a x i m u s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,165
Received 58 Likes on 53 Posts
C63 AMG P30 *EuroCharged*| Porsche Cayenne | Buell XB9SX
I like both but personally prefer my PFL. I like the "less refined" look of it.
Old 12-04-2018, 06:52 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
kimeran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: South Africa
Posts: 474
Received 35 Likes on 28 Posts
2012 C63 AMG, 1991 325iS. Ex: 2011 C63 P31
In agreement with others about the front of the PFL looking more aggressive. It does look a bit outdated compared to the FL though.
Things I prefer on the PFL is definitely that pop up screen, and we DEFINITELY cannot forget those gorgeous 1 piece seats that it came with
Old 12-04-2018, 08:13 AM
  #7  
Member
 
Duffer4126's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Oxford, NC
Posts: 130
Received 51 Likes on 31 Posts
2015 Mercedes C63 amg 507
Easy decision....



Old 12-04-2018, 12:52 PM
  #8  
Member
 
c63_alex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 110
Received 14 Likes on 10 Posts
2012 C63 AMG - 2006 Mitsubishi Evo IX - 1979 Jeep CJ7
PFL is cool but looks very outdated next to a FL
Old 12-04-2018, 02:03 PM
  #9  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
chrisridebike8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,755
Received 408 Likes on 290 Posts
'10 C63
Originally Posted by c63_alex
PFL is cool but looks very outdated next to a FL
I agree with this. I think the 507 sedan is about perfect for me styling wise. I also hate the corner illumination fog lights and the eyebrows on my PFL.
Old 12-04-2018, 05:11 PM
  #10  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Adi-Benz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 4,691
Received 546 Likes on 482 Posts
2010 C300 4MATIC........ 2011 C63 AMG.............. 2015 CLS400 4MATIC.....
Prefacelift exterior with lighting upgrades and facelift rear diffuser
Old 12-04-2018, 05:47 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
hookah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: SF bay area
Posts: 384
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
2012 C63 P31 LSD-Current: My past 1999 C43, 2004 Clk55, 1999 C280 sport, 1995 C280
Originally Posted by chrisridebike8
I agree with this. I think the 507 sedan is about perfect for me styling wise. I also hate the corner illumination fog lights and the eyebrows on my PFL.
I would agree as well. I think both Pre FL and FL are great looking. The pre FL can look dated from the front sometimes, but when people modify the pre FL cars they seem to really exude aggressiveness. Especially blacked out ones. I think the big improvement on the FL cars is yes, the tech and the interior. Either way I think they both have theyre pros and cons. Overall I prefer the FL cars.
Old 12-04-2018, 06:47 PM
  #12  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
roadkillrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,370
Received 692 Likes on 471 Posts
12 C63BS Magno Alanite Grey, 22 X3M Brooklyn Grey, 08 BMW E93, 22 Ducati Desert Sled, John Deere 3R
For me the PFL just looks like a car from 2008 and I dislike the overly large bulbous headlights and the double horizontal bar grill. Dash and steering wheel inside also look like an early 2000's car - steering wheel is the worst part but the popup nav in yellowish colors and the round buttons look quite dated - much more dated I find that BMW's of the same era.

Example 2008 M3 vs 2008 C63 interiors.



Last edited by roadkillrob; 12-04-2018 at 06:51 PM.
Old 12-04-2018, 07:35 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
hookah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: SF bay area
Posts: 384
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
2012 C63 P31 LSD-Current: My past 1999 C43, 2004 Clk55, 1999 C280 sport, 1995 C280
Originally Posted by roadkillrob
For me the PFL just looks like a car from 2008 and I dislike the overly large bulbous headlights and the double horizontal bar grill. Dash and steering wheel inside also look like an early 2000's car - steering wheel is the worst part but the popup nav in yellowish colors and the round buttons look quite dated - much more dated I find that BMW's of the same era.

Example 2008 M3 vs 2008 C63 interiors.


Personally Id have to disagree with you there. Especially the use of cheap materials in the BMW. I have owned a E90 M3. I am a true Mercedes guy having owned many over the years but decided to give BMW a shot. Never again. Just no comparison. The gauges and controls look like plastic matel toys on the BMW. Even the Pre FL C63 has quality metal finishes and a full digital display. I cant stand the orange 80's looking, blocky print in the BMW's. If you compare to the FL C63 and same era M3 theres no contest.
Old 12-04-2018, 07:58 PM
  #14  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
deadlyvt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,293
Received 396 Likes on 268 Posts
2010 C63 AMG
Originally Posted by hookah
Personally Id have to disagree with you there. Especially the use of cheap materials in the BMW. I have owned a E90 M3. I am a true Mercedes guy having owned many over the years but decided to give BMW a shot. Never again. Just no comparison. The gauges and controls look like plastic matel toys on the BMW. Even the Pre FL C63 has quality metal finishes and a full digital display. I cant stand the orange 80's looking, blocky print in the BMW's. If you compare to the FL C63 and same era M3 theres no contest.
yes this... the first time I rode in an e90 I was blown away by how dated it felt new... hardly even an upgrade from the e46. It was orange lights, lacklustre effort in design and cheap materials
Old 12-05-2018, 07:55 AM
  #15  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
roadkillrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,370
Received 692 Likes on 471 Posts
12 C63BS Magno Alanite Grey, 22 X3M Brooklyn Grey, 08 BMW E93, 22 Ducati Desert Sled, John Deere 3R
I would agree on the material quality between the 2 certainly, but looking at those 2 pictures, the M3 design wise looks much more modern like a FL C63 and the PFL interior feels much more early 2000's to me.
Old 12-05-2018, 12:15 PM
  #16  
Member
 
gmore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 176
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
'10 C63 P30
With a spartan interior and more aggressive exterior, the PFL just plays the role of refined muscle car better while the PFL is more plush and soft... of course, I reserve the right to change my mind as soon as I can afford an FL model
The following 2 users liked this post by gmore:
Crya (12-05-2018), Duffer4126 (12-05-2018)
Old 12-05-2018, 03:05 PM
  #17  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Adi-Benz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 4,691
Received 546 Likes on 482 Posts
2010 C300 4MATIC........ 2011 C63 AMG.............. 2015 CLS400 4MATIC.....
Let's not bring in that 2002 interior from the BMWs in lol.

The biggest thing exterior wise is LED lighting. That's literally it.

Interior is pretty different but there are aspects I like of both.
Old 12-06-2018, 04:05 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
hookah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: SF bay area
Posts: 384
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
2012 C63 P31 LSD-Current: My past 1999 C43, 2004 Clk55, 1999 C280 sport, 1995 C280
Just saw a pre FL parked and took a long look at it. I actually think they look great and maybe even a bit more muscular from the front. Wouldn't mind having my 2012 and a pre FL
Old 12-06-2018, 04:22 PM
  #19  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
MTV10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Montreal, QC
Posts: 1,060
Received 96 Likes on 74 Posts
E55 AMG & C63 AMG
PFL has a more aggressive front end, no doubt. Something about it always turns my head.
Old 12-06-2018, 04:31 PM
  #20  
Member
 
sqitis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 169
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
C63 P31
Originally Posted by Sanders27
As I continue my search for another 63, my first being an 09, I keep wondering if anyone else out there prefers some of the styling cues on the preFL model.

In particular, the double 'vents' on the front bumper and the mechanical screen deployment on the inside. Those are two things I love on the pre models. I think the screen takes me back to Voltron when they would hop in the lions and their hud would flip up

I know the FL has a lot of mechanical plusses, the single fin grill, the drls, etc. But just curious if I am alone in liking the two other things.
I'm hopefully picking up a '12 next week but like you I totally prefer preFL and love the round fogs. Ooh the double vents also look way better.

However, can we take a FL car and put a preFL front end on it?? Oh man I would almost do that...maybe stupid, I know but.....

Last edited by sqitis; 12-06-2018 at 04:34 PM.
Old 12-06-2018, 05:33 PM
  #21  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
chrisridebike8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,755
Received 408 Likes on 290 Posts
'10 C63
Originally Posted by sqitis
I'm hopefully picking up a '12 next week but like you I totally prefer preFL and love the round fogs. Ooh the double vents also look way better.

However, can we take a FL car and put a preFL front end on it?? Oh man I would almost do that...maybe stupid, I know but.....
You totally could. You would need the headlights, bumper, and hood. The hardest part is wiring and coding for the headlights. People swap PFL to FL, so I don't see why you couldn't go the other way. As far as exterior goes, it would be easier to get the FL rear bumper, diffuser, and tail lights. That would obviously not get you the interior or the mechanicals, but if we are just talking styling, that is much easier and cheaper
Old 12-06-2018, 06:45 PM
  #22  
Member
 
sqitis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 169
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
C63 P31
Yea that sounds like too much work. However I like the headlights with the AMG logo in the center.
Old 12-06-2018, 07:15 PM
  #23  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Sanders27's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Virginia
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C63 AMG
I appreciate everyone's take on the styling. It has given me a lot to think about. Prior to this thread I was convinced I would end up in FL but seeing I'm not alone on the love for a PFL, I will certainly not ignore a good example. I was flipping through some old photos of my 09 and remember why I loved it so much. Side note, the single fin grill really makes a huge difference.

Thanks again for the input all!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: PreFL vs FL styling opinions



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:42 PM.