ESP on, Sport, ESP off, rolling road
02-08-2019, 03:51 PM
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ESP on, Sport, ESP off, rolling road
I've owned a 2010 C63 saloon for about 4 months now, and i'm really enjoying getting to know the car, it's genuinely a treat to get behind the wheel.
As I bought it coming into winter, it has been a little frustrating as the weather has deteriorated, meaning I can't explore its upper limits even remotely. And I did have a 'bit of a moment' the other day on a cold greasy back road with ESP off (I know, not advisable) and was lucky to get away with it.
It got me thinking how safe the car would be with ESP untouched, could you literally floor it going round a bend and it would just keep to the line? (under duress as it brakes wheels and retards etc) or can it still get messy with full ESP on? Rather than test it on the road, I thught I'd be sensible, for once, and ask
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As I bought it coming into winter, it has been a little frustrating as the weather has deteriorated, meaning I can't explore its upper limits even remotely. And I did have a 'bit of a moment' the other day on a cold greasy back road with ESP off (I know, not advisable) and was lucky to get away with it.
It got me thinking how safe the car would be with ESP untouched, could you literally floor it going round a bend and it would just keep to the line? (under duress as it brakes wheels and retards etc) or can it still get messy with full ESP on? Rather than test it on the road, I thught I'd be sensible, for once, and ask
cheers
02-08-2019, 04:30 PM
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Does your car have the p30 performance pack with the LSD?
ESP can only do so much with an open diff before it throws in the towel and basically cuts throttle or gives up trying to brake the wheel with the least amount of traction
ESP can only do so much with an open diff before it throws in the towel and basically cuts throttle or gives up trying to brake the wheel with the least amount of traction
02-08-2019, 04:36 PM
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No I don't, no LSD or PPack.
So the cars decision process is > try braking the wheels that are slipping > if that doesnt work retard the engine back. Is that right?
So the cars decision process is > try braking the wheels that are slipping > if that doesnt work retard the engine back. Is that right?
02-08-2019, 09:07 PM
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Haha... that was the plan. But my idiotic streak is greater than my driving skill. At least it is when the roads are as wet as they are at the minute
02-09-2019, 12:13 AM
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In the cold on summer tires, ESP sometimes can’t keep up, especially if it’s damp. The car can snap and then ESP will reel it back in. Don’t rely on ESP.
02-09-2019, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisridebike8
In the cold on summer tires, ESP sometimes can’t keep up, especially if it’s damp. The car can snap and then ESP will reel it back in. Don’t rely on ESP.
02-09-2019, 10:24 PM
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I just replaced my rear tires they were shot, in the rain on the highway it would make my *** pucker.
Even in in the cold I could blow tires off going 60 mph. Needless to say new tires much better. Enjoy
Even in in the cold I could blow tires off going 60 mph. Needless to say new tires much better. Enjoy
02-10-2019, 06:48 PM
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Yeah I agree, I’ll keep the ESP on during the rubbish weather and not tempt fate. My rears aren’t the freshest either, I’d rather see a flickering triangle on the dash than be guessing if I’m going to have any traction or not 😆
