ceesixthree

Rerar camber adjustment?
I know these are rear camber. Does anyone see any benefit or does anyone want tobuy? I have kwv3 notinstalled yet togo in also.

Honro

I have BC BR coil overs. I grabbed the exact same camber arms u did, and I gained iirc about 2.2degrees. It doesn't sound like much, but in terms of the inside of ur tyre getting chewed up its heaps. Mechanic also said, if he went for any more +tive camber, the wheels wouldn't fit under the guard - these things just run tons of -ative camber from factory. I think im now at -0.8deg.

ceesixthree

So i should install them for better adjustment. Thanks mate

Honro

I recommend them.

rene_gts

I think I have the same set and it sure helped a lot reducing the negative camber. I think I have -1deg camber.

ceesixthree

Thanks heaps

Honro

Realistically if they save u just one set of tires over the time you own the car, they have paid them selves off, the way I look at it

I was going through a set every 12000kms, and it was usually because the inside was chewed out and bald... outside still had not got near the markers! So I put them in with my new PS4's and at ~11,000kms the insides are still good! So for me, was totally worth it.

mbellew937

Where'd you get these? Could definitely use on my c300. Someone lowered it before I got it and I keep chewing up the insides of my tires

Honro

I got mine from here:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mercedes...-/292285754537

Not sure if they will fit a C300, maybe ask the seller.

K-Mac

OEM there is only front and rear Toe "directional adjustment".

No Camber or Caster to adjust tire contact angles!

Essential to resolve costly, premature edge tire wear.

A result of day to day commuting encountering high cambered roads or altered height through load carrying or lowing. Fitting wide profile tires / wheels. Correctly resolving steering pull and ongoing adjustment for curb knock damage.

We saw the need therefore to re-instate from the early 90's full precise front Camber and Caster, rear Camber (and extra Toe).

Front and Rear - manufactured to suit virtually every Mercedes including very latest 2019 models.

The K-MAC unique patented design is precise, single wrench adjustable - accurately (under load direct on alignment rack). Kit simply replaces the 4 front and rear highest wearing suspension bushings

NOTE:
Rear kit adjusts the lower control arms instead of replacing the upper arms which are difficult to access / adjust and to decrease inner edge tire wear need to reduce important clearance - top of tire to outer fender.

Front Camber and Caster kit #502616 K $480

Rear Camber (and extra Toe) kit #502226 K $480

Worldwide delivery $30 one kit ($50 F/R)

See also Web site re Front upper strut top adjuster kits, Rear uprated bushings for the 6 multi link arms

icon420

hit him up on face book just installed my front & rear camber arms from f-1 fabrication and they are awesome and cheaper then a full set of k-mac bushings too and way more adjustment

561design

Just an FYI to folks that the F1 solution pushes the top of the wheel out to reduce negative camber. The Kmac bushings pull the lower wheel in to reduce negative camber. This can be critical if anyone is planning to run aggressive wheel fitment. Having gone thru extensive wheel adjustments on both front and rear, it's also nice to have the additional adjustable caster should you need to correct that while adjusting the camber. If you adjust the camber enough, it will alter your caster angle and you'll want to be able to adjust that to bring that metric back in spec.

I have both items and both are well built and both companies deliver great service. I would recommend the Kmac solution as it maintains body to wheel clearance (if you're running an aggressive offset) and for the additional adjust ability should you need it.

BLKROKT

Exactly what I did. Both. So you can adjust from the top and bottom.

I like the UPD arms better because they use sphericals rather than poly, but they’re not for everyone.

icon420

correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t upd only make rear camber arms? I’m pretty sure I asked them if they had both before I bought my f1s

BLKROKT

They may not make both anymore I don’t know. I have both upper arms on each side.

icon420

oh maybe they don’t lucky you got both then the rears I seen did look pretty awesome tho

BLKROKT

This is what I have: https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...oe-camber.html

Have you tried PM’ing Shardul?

icon420

yeah he only has rear stuff now i guess, i know F1 has rear toe and front toe and caster too maybe one day ill get all of them to have full adjustability but i doubt my setups will be as aggressive as yours is to even need it lol

ShaneN.

I just took this pic today oddly enough, 27,000 kms on these pilot super sports. I'm glad I had it on the hoist for something else because I didn't even notice the inside was that bad, even though I knew they were almost right at the wear bar. I'm actually quite surprised I even got that much out of them, I suppose having lots of rain in Vancouver helped with some mileage.

Going ps4s tomorrow in 275/30/19. I lowered on springs maybe ~10k ago or so, so I hope these new ones don't wear on the inside even faster. Oddly enough my left tire wasn't quite as bad on the inside. Maybe it's worth doing one of these kits, who would suggest which one of the kits above for me if I'm only ever going to run the setup of stock 19s, 275s and lowering springs?

icon420

i would think you would be okay with a k-mac kit in the rear alone but theres a little labour involved with swapping the bushings out but if you do rear camber arms theres also a bit of labour involved as you have to loosen the sub frame to get the bolt out of the arm. i feel either the k-mac or arms will work great for you but itll depend on the labour costs you wanna spend id say to get it done. maybe someone else has an opinion but i did camber arms on mine and the arms alone were cheaper then the k-mac kit

ShaneN.

So I'd just need this: Rear Camber (and extra Toe) kit #502226 K $480??

What's the time (roughly) involved in the install? Am I sacrificing a bit of handling and adding some overs steer if the rear tire sits more flush?

icon420

im not tool sure on the install times for the k-mac rear kit you wouldnt be sacrificing any handling at all its just going to correct the rear camber more and keep toe in check with stock specs i personally havent ran this kit but check out or even pm k-mac for more info

561design

With a lift, it takes about an hour or less. What's nice about the K-Mac kit, is that it comes with a pretty nice tool to press the OEM bushing out without having to pull the whole arm out. You will not have negative effects of handling installing the K-mac kit.

Mort

I agree with 561design. Working on jack stands, off the floor I was thinking maybe a hour per side taking your time. Not a bad job at all and on the street less negative rear camber will likely improve acceleration, with more tire on the ground and cornering will be enhanced at G levels generated at the street performance level. The firmer bushing should improve handling and the cost of ride comfort will not be too noticeable.