Wait for custom tune via HP tuners or go with EC mygenius??
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2012 P31 C63
Wait for custom tune via HP tuners or go with EC mygenius??
My local tuner who is well known in the area for tuning via HP tuners on a AWD DynoJet (not sure if that matters) told me he can tune my c63 for about $1000 including the credits, dyno time, and a tool (not sure what it is) where I can flashback to stock if needed. He also mentioned to get retuned for extra modifications like headers or flex-fuel it would only be about another 450 (each time unless I did it all at once), mind you this is a custom tune I am talking about. Then to go forced induction (supercharger) they will charge 550 to retune it. I know mygenius is offered by EC on the forums for a special price (I was quoted awhile ago around 830 for the mygenius device with tunes on it, not sure which ones/stages) but I am wondering two things:
Car is currently stock right now but I am slowly gathering mods together. Already bought row airboxes, planning to get headers probably in a couple of months, then flex fuel with upgraded injectors. Or am I completely wrong with how I am thinking about the EC mygenius and I can just buy this thing once and EC will send me updated maps in regards to my modifications for a certain price which outweighs the benefits of just going custom tune a couple of times? Btw, I would love to tune my car now with the row airboxes and I have funds to do it but I am trying to make the best financial decision and not regret it later. Any advice/experiences would be great with either options.
- Do companies/tuners on the forums offer something like EC v7 can tune for hp tuners device or something (not even sure what to call it)?
- For an extra 200 bucks, I think it makes more sense to just wait gather my mods and get a custom tune for the car rather than figuring out how to get EC to give me a custom tune for like another 500-1000 (correct me if I am wrong on this price) via mygenius and finding a shop, having to pay them etc. just sounds like a headache and more money but I might be ignorant of how it all works so any advice would be great.
Car is currently stock right now but I am slowly gathering mods together. Already bought row airboxes, planning to get headers probably in a couple of months, then flex fuel with upgraded injectors. Or am I completely wrong with how I am thinking about the EC mygenius and I can just buy this thing once and EC will send me updated maps in regards to my modifications for a certain price which outweighs the benefits of just going custom tune a couple of times? Btw, I would love to tune my car now with the row airboxes and I have funds to do it but I am trying to make the best financial decision and not regret it later. Any advice/experiences would be great with either options.
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If he was a good tuner, $1000 all in is way too low. I'd never charge that little. One thing to note...just because someone has the software and know how to tune, does not make them anywhere near a great tuner. Not even close...if I give you a knife and gloves, are you automatically a Surgeon performing open heart surgery? Many "tuners" simply tune your full throttle air fueling...they don't touch your timing, part throttle, or drivabalilty mappings. Why pay for a tune if 99% of the map you drive in isn't even touched. This takes hours to fine tune...$1000 is too little.
HP tuners will allow for tunability, but a tune from the likes of OETuning, Eurocharged, RaceIQ, etc will ensure your car will run and drive. Their tunes are based off stock mappings, so they're guaranteed to work for the most part.
You really have to weight your goals and what you plan to achieve.
HP tuners will allow for tunability, but a tune from the likes of OETuning, Eurocharged, RaceIQ, etc will ensure your car will run and drive. Their tunes are based off stock mappings, so they're guaranteed to work for the most part.
You really have to weight your goals and what you plan to achieve.
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I’ve had my Corvette tuned on the Dyno with HP Tuners and IF they know what they are doing and have done C63’s like Yours Before, Maybe.
I JUST got a Eurocharged Tune and a MyGenius Handheld so I can go back Stock in 5 minutes anytime I want. I loved my Tune. No issues and still drives great actually even smoother than stock.
If your car has LOTS of Mods it may be better down the road to do a custom tune as your car will have a lot going on and they can drive with you in your car and data log to get everything perfect like your Air/Furl Ratios etc.
But EuroCharged has done hundreds of Mercedes C63’s and they know what they are doing and if somethings not right they are good about fixing it.
Mine was fine fine but I had a minor issue loading a Tune and they took care of it, so I trust them.
Good Luck.
I JUST got a Eurocharged Tune and a MyGenius Handheld so I can go back Stock in 5 minutes anytime I want. I loved my Tune. No issues and still drives great actually even smoother than stock.
If your car has LOTS of Mods it may be better down the road to do a custom tune as your car will have a lot going on and they can drive with you in your car and data log to get everything perfect like your Air/Furl Ratios etc.
But EuroCharged has done hundreds of Mercedes C63’s and they know what they are doing and if somethings not right they are good about fixing it.
Mine was fine fine but I had a minor issue loading a Tune and they took care of it, so I trust them.
Good Luck.
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I’ve had my Corvette tuned on the Dyno with HP Tuners and IF they know what they are doing and have done C63’s like Yours Before, Maybe.
I JUST got a Eurocharged Tune and a MyGenius Handheld so I can go back Stock in 5 minutes anytime I want. I loved my Tune. No issues and still drives great actually even smoother than stock.
If your car has LOTS of Mods it may be better down the road to do a custom tune as your car will have a lot going on and they can drive with you in your car and data log to get everything perfect like your Air/Furl Ratios etc.
But EuroCharged has done hundreds of Mercedes C63’s and they know what they are doing and if somethings not right they are good about fixing it.
Mine was fine fine but I had a minor issue loading a Tune and they took care of it, so I trust them.
Good Luck.
I JUST got a Eurocharged Tune and a MyGenius Handheld so I can go back Stock in 5 minutes anytime I want. I loved my Tune. No issues and still drives great actually even smoother than stock.
If your car has LOTS of Mods it may be better down the road to do a custom tune as your car will have a lot going on and they can drive with you in your car and data log to get everything perfect like your Air/Furl Ratios etc.
But EuroCharged has done hundreds of Mercedes C63’s and they know what they are doing and if somethings not right they are good about fixing it.
Mine was fine fine but I had a minor issue loading a Tune and they took care of it, so I trust them.
Good Luck.
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This should have triggered a light bulb for you. Go with a known brand that has history working on the car you own. Also Eurocharged customer service is one of the best around.
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These cars are not easy to tune go with a backed brand go with eurocharged 100% at least you will have plenty of support if **** goes pear shape
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If the tuner has done C63s before he will no doubt have a base tune to work from so he can charge only $1K for customising the base tune.
If he does not have a base tune then $1K is too little.
If he does not have a base tune then $1K is too little.
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My local tuner who is well known in the area for tuning via HP tuners on a AWD DynoJet (not sure if that matters) told me he can tune my c63 for about $1000 including the credits, dyno time, and a tool (not sure what it is) where I can flashback to stock if needed. He also mentioned to get retuned for extra modifications like headers or flex-fuel it would only be about another 450 (each time unless I did it all at once), mind you this is a custom tune I am talking about. Then to go forced induction (supercharger) they will charge 550 to retune it. I know mygenius is offered by EC on the forums for a special price (I was quoted awhile ago around 830 for the mygenius device with tunes on it, not sure which ones/stages) but I am wondering two things:
Car is currently stock right now but I am slowly gathering mods together. Already bought row airboxes, planning to get headers probably in a couple of months, then flex fuel with upgraded injectors. Or am I completely wrong with how I am thinking about the EC mygenius and I can just buy this thing once and EC will send me updated maps in regards to my modifications for a certain price which outweighs the benefits of just going custom tune a couple of times? Btw, I would love to tune my car now with the row airboxes and I have funds to do it but I am trying to make the best financial decision and not regret it later. Any advice/experiences would be great with either options.
- Do companies/tuners on the forums offer something like EC v7 can tune for hp tuners device or something (not even sure what to call it)?
- For an extra 200 bucks, I think it makes more sense to just wait gather my mods and get a custom tune for the car rather than figuring out how to get EC to give me a custom tune for like another 500-1000 (correct me if I am wrong on this price) via mygenius and finding a shop, having to pay them etc. just sounds like a headache and more money but I might be ignorant of how it all works so any advice would be great.
Car is currently stock right now but I am slowly gathering mods together. Already bought row airboxes, planning to get headers probably in a couple of months, then flex fuel with upgraded injectors. Or am I completely wrong with how I am thinking about the EC mygenius and I can just buy this thing once and EC will send me updated maps in regards to my modifications for a certain price which outweighs the benefits of just going custom tune a couple of times? Btw, I would love to tune my car now with the row airboxes and I have funds to do it but I am trying to make the best financial decision and not regret it later. Any advice/experiences would be great with either options.
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I went through my PMs and we had a conversation awhile ago and I never followed up. Got really busy but I will PM you again. Have a couple questions for you.
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Another very happy EC customer here.
customer service is spectacular and questions usually answered in hours at most.
in many states it is also very helpful to flash back to stock before emissions testing as many tunes deactivate some oxygen sensors. For this, flash back at least a week before testing and use an ODB to check that all is reading once the cycle completes.
customer service is spectacular and questions usually answered in hours at most.
in many states it is also very helpful to flash back to stock before emissions testing as many tunes deactivate some oxygen sensors. For this, flash back at least a week before testing and use an ODB to check that all is reading once the cycle completes.
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I have had OE & Euro. Now have HPTuners - but I am biased because I like to do my own. I spent many years doing extensive GM & Ford calibrations and although the same principles apply to most platforms, the nuances of the AMG do not correlate directly.
Regardless of the tool used, a thorough custom tune done well will always be better, safer, and produce more power/torque than a generic solution.
For every workshop or tuner saying "I'm always fixing <insert tool/company here> tunes/work", there is just as many saying the same about that company.
Regardless of the tool used, a thorough custom tune done well will always be better, safer, and produce more power/torque than a generic solution.
For every workshop or tuner saying "I'm always fixing <insert tool/company here> tunes/work", there is just as many saying the same about that company.
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I’ve had oe tuning in my old car and EC v6 when I got my current c again.
i can tell you that the eurocharged tune drove weird with shifting and tb wouldn’t open past 70%. Very rubbish tune. With timing crashes passed 6k rpms.
i tried to get a hold of Jeremy to get to his tune. But he wasn’t in country anymore and I had lost faith after something’s ive heard and read about them.
i went with HPTuners. I’ll tell you now the parameters are a little confusing. User friendliness I’d give a 7. Ive spent nearly 3-4 hours dynoing and 3+ street tuning. I built the map from ground up and I had tuner verify my progress along the way.
i can tell you that the eurocharged tune drove weird with shifting and tb wouldn’t open past 70%. Very rubbish tune. With timing crashes passed 6k rpms.
i tried to get a hold of Jeremy to get to his tune. But he wasn’t in country anymore and I had lost faith after something’s ive heard and read about them.
i went with HPTuners. I’ll tell you now the parameters are a little confusing. User friendliness I’d give a 7. Ive spent nearly 3-4 hours dynoing and 3+ street tuning. I built the map from ground up and I had tuner verify my progress along the way.
