W156 Misfire
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2009 SL63, 1999 E300 (462k miles and counting)
See above on leak down.
Cam solenoids and cam adjustment gears were replaced when heads were done.
Cause or symptom the injector turns off at light load intermittnantly
Cam solenoids and cam adjustment gears were replaced when heads were done.
Cause or symptom the injector turns off at light load intermittnantly
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I just changed all my plugs, and the injector and coil on cyl 7. Still misfires.
I did note that my exhaust cam positon values were fluctuating between -10 and +14 while cruising at that low rpm though
Both intakes were approx. +17 , and the other exhaust was about -6
I did note that my exhaust cam positon values were fluctuating between -10 and +14 while cruising at that low rpm though
Both intakes were approx. +17 , and the other exhaust was about -6
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How did you capture/measure that?
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Live data on a scanner
I have a theory though. Disconnect the cam position sensor on Bank 2. Go for a drive. See if it still misfires without the cam adjuster running.
If its fine, then its either the cam adjuster or the cam position sensor
I have a theory though. Disconnect the cam position sensor on Bank 2. Go for a drive. See if it still misfires without the cam adjuster running.
If its fine, then its either the cam adjuster or the cam position sensor
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no...the tune won't be specific to each bank. its pretty rare even with full standalones to allow for individual cylinder correction.
the M156 engine was CAD designed so I'd doubt the head flow characteristics to allow for a deviation of 11%. deviation is unavoidable with OEM built engines, but not of a spread of 11%. I'd look to maybe the possibility of air flow restriction of some sort? it wouldn't be a fuel flow issue as fueling will be based off metered air and oxygen sensor reading.
does your trims always have a 11% spread, or was it just this instance? my LTFT's with larger injectors and e85 tend to have a spread of about 3-7% at times, but never static.
anybody else here have any thoughts?
the M156 engine was CAD designed so I'd doubt the head flow characteristics to allow for a deviation of 11%. deviation is unavoidable with OEM built engines, but not of a spread of 11%. I'd look to maybe the possibility of air flow restriction of some sort? it wouldn't be a fuel flow issue as fueling will be based off metered air and oxygen sensor reading.
does your trims always have a 11% spread, or was it just this instance? my LTFT's with larger injectors and e85 tend to have a spread of about 3-7% at times, but never static.
anybody else here have any thoughts?
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Not sure why one of the 5 shops that took his car apart didnt notice the car sounding like rocks in the adjuster.
Feel bad as they took him to the cleaners changing everything but the one thing that is making noise.
Feel bad as they took him to the cleaners changing everything but the one thing that is making noise.
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Do any of you guys have any weird sounding noises from the cam adjuster (intake)?
Im just wondering maybe someone skipped a step or something when putting the car back together after the headbolt install
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhgVA6Ajm5w
Did your misfire come after the headbolt install dogtag?
What are your long term fuel trims like?
Im just wondering maybe someone skipped a step or something when putting the car back together after the headbolt install
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhgVA6Ajm5w
Did your misfire come after the headbolt install dogtag?
What are your long term fuel trims like?
I hope you got that cleared up.
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what does your cam timing read out when driving with solenoids unplugged?
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With the exhaust cam solenoid unplugged, the exhaust reads at -15.
I havnt looked to see what it reads with the intake cam solenoid unplugged, or if it defaults to a safe setting with the exhaust cam solenoid unpolugged.
I havnt looked to see what it reads with the intake cam solenoid unplugged, or if it defaults to a safe setting with the exhaust cam solenoid unpolugged.
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update: Pulled bank 2 apart. Changed camshaft adjusters, cleaned and flowed injectors, replaced all coils (again), found a nose seal on the cam that was in the wrong slot. Got that fixed, everything back together. And guess what.
With brand new cam solenoids plugged in, misfire on cylinder 7 still present.
Unplug exhaust cam solenoid. Misfire goes away entirely....at this point I'm completely at a loss.
With brand new cam solenoids plugged in, misfire on cylinder 7 still present.
Unplug exhaust cam solenoid. Misfire goes away entirely....at this point I'm completely at a loss.
