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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 09:05 PM
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Who is running SLS Black Series Lifters

Just curious, lots of talk of them curious who has actually spent the extra and put them in and if so how many miles, how have they held up?

Thinking of doing it, have found them for undef 1200 vs 700 ish for the standard M159 sls lifters.
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by roadkillrob
Just curious, lots of talk of them curious who has actually spent the extra and put them in and if so how many miles, how have they held up?

Thinking of doing it, have found them for undef 1200 vs 700 ish for the standard M159 sls lifters.
I have them in my new motor worth it if you want to rev motor
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 08:37 AM
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I have them in my new motor worth it if you want to rev motor
Thanks, I am looking at them for longevity more than revving it but have heard they are lighter and obviously built for more revs in the SLS.

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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 01:18 PM
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What are the goals for the car?
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by roadkillrob
Thanks, I am looking at them for longevity more than revving it but have heard they are lighter and obviously built for more revs in the SLS.

Rob
I mwould just go with the normal SLS ones
Ive been beating on them for 50000kms with no issues
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 10:45 PM
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What are the goals for the car?
cams have premature wear at 38k miles so trying to decide which lifters and cams to go with, plan to leave car stock just looking to make it won’t need another set in the future!
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 01:13 AM
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Probably not necessary the cams are the bigger issue
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 01:42 AM
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Probably not necessary the cams are the bigger issue
Cams are not a issue my motor made 980hp on stock cams cast pistons and stock heads

I dont know where you pulled that information from
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 02:21 AM
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I think he meant dependability wise... more of an issue than the lifters in regards to the premature valve train wear
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by deadlyvt
I think he meant dependability wise... more of an issue than the lifters in regards to the premature valve train wear
Every motor is different i pulled my motor out qt 100000kms and no wearon cams what so ever 2010 model all lobes were perfect
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Ya they do seem all over the place, watching Tasos videos, some are great at relatively high miles some seem to wear very early, maybe how the car is driven (lots of cold starts short trips vs putting on miles), maybe oil used, maybe some cams are not hardened as well.
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Been a while, but recall a video w/ Tasos taking a file to both cam and lifter with the cam being a far softer material. Basic conclusion I drew(and could be wrong) was replace the lifters for the sake of the cams. When I did my HBs, cams had some wear but looked decent so opted for just standard lifters to get some more time out of the cams (at 96K miles and about 5K more per year, opted for best 'value'), but if I were to replace the cams as well(oem or not), would opt for the SLS.

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The cams are cast so they don’t wear evenly and leave imperfections. Bigger issue at hand though is the variable in what people use for oil weight and the change interval that is recommended by Mercedes. My opinion of course like everyone else’s as I don’t have data from every M156 out in the world. Also the doesn’t sound like OP isn’t looking for big HP per se.

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Old Oct 6, 2019 | 07:53 AM
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Yes thinking more about reliability at stock HP levels, VRP will do an OEM grind, so was thinking about SLS Black series lifters and the VRP cams that are OEM rebuilt welded and hardened more than factory they claim, but also holding out to see the deal on Tasos' billet cams.
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 04:32 AM
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Cams are not a issue my motor made 980hp on stock cams cast pistons and stock heads

I dont know where you pulled that information from

980hp, how?
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by roadkillrob
Ya they do seem all over the place, watching Tasos videos, some are great at relatively high miles some seem to wear very early, maybe how the car is driven (lots of cold starts short trips vs putting on miles), maybe oil used, maybe some cams are not hardened as well.
Hot country, wrong oil, floor them cold ... i think thats more the problem. We here in eruope dont have that problems what Tasos show.
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MrkiC63
980hp, how?
What do u mean how?
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 04:44 AM
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What do u mean how?
Which kind of mods you need for 980hp ... sounds amazing.
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Originally Posted by MrkiC63
Which kind of mods you need for 980hp ... sounds amazing.
Weiatec stage 3 etc etc 15 psi e85
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 05:46 AM
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Weiatec stage 3 etc etc 15 psi e85
Never heard from that car. You have some data, pictures and dyno sheet?
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Originally Posted by MrkiC63
Never heard from that car. You have some data, pictures and dyno sheet?
Just seach my name on these forums some stuff will pop up
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I had the SLS ones installed with the phosphate coating, but not the Black Series ones.
Just wasn't worth the additional cost to me.
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In america people like to exceed the 10,000 mile oil change intervals, sometimes doubling them. The 10k mi service interval is for light duty. If more m156 owners did 3-5k mi oil changes I doubt we would see the cam and lifter wear issues, or if they used higher quality oils.
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In america people like to exceed the 10,000 mile oil change intervals, sometimes doubling them. The 10k mi service interval is for light duty. If more m156 owners did 3-5k mi oil changes I doubt we would see the cam and lifter wear issues, or if they used higher quality oils.
And I absolutely agree with your statement above 100%👍🏽
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Originally Posted by roadkillrob
Just curious, lots of talk of them curious who has actually spent the extra and put them in and if so how many miles, how have they held up?

Thinking of doing it, have found them for undef 1200 vs 700 ish for the standard M159 sls lifters.
Lifters or buckets?
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