Getting MFactory Helical LSD Installed tomorrow.
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Getting MFactory Helical LSD Installed tomorrow.
I am getting an MFactory Helical LSD installed tomorrow. I didn't go for the Wavetrac because of pricing. And I also feel with Wavetrac it's partly the name and prestige that you are buying, and of-coz they have been around longer. Definitely excited to see what difference it makes to the vehicle especially with off the line traction and exiting corners.
For reference / perspective sake, I have 2012 480hp performance package plus C63 (strangely specd without an LSD). No tune. No mods what so ever (need to sort out traction first). I have Ventus S1 Evo 2 on the wheels (got em with the car). They are okay. They slip very easy in the rain when they are cold. I have however taken them around Mt Nebo and Glorius and really pushed them around the corners [Sport handling mode(not traction fully off, but half off), and in S+]. They hold really good around the corners I wont lie. Its the off the line traction that lacks. But again, with this much toque in first gear its hard not to spin any tyre. The one time I drag raced at a green light the wheels spun all the way to third gear
before they managed to catch the road. 235/35/19 Front, 255/30/19 Rear. When the tires run out I will be getting PSS4s 255 Front, 275 Rear. Should be a proper unit after that.
I will be reporting on here once the differential has been installed. Please comment on my decisions here... Cheers
For reference / perspective sake, I have 2012 480hp performance package plus C63 (strangely specd without an LSD). No tune. No mods what so ever (need to sort out traction first). I have Ventus S1 Evo 2 on the wheels (got em with the car). They are okay. They slip very easy in the rain when they are cold. I have however taken them around Mt Nebo and Glorius and really pushed them around the corners [Sport handling mode(not traction fully off, but half off), and in S+]. They hold really good around the corners I wont lie. Its the off the line traction that lacks. But again, with this much toque in first gear its hard not to spin any tyre. The one time I drag raced at a green light the wheels spun all the way to third gear
before they managed to catch the road. 235/35/19 Front, 255/30/19 Rear. When the tires run out I will be getting PSS4s 255 Front, 275 Rear. Should be a proper unit after that.I will be reporting on here once the differential has been installed. Please comment on my decisions here... Cheers
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ah...you're in Australia hence your comment on pricing. i don't agree with the notion that Wavetrac doesn't have a superior product because it does in fact.
in any case, something is better than nothing. cheers to the purchase! let us know how it performs in the turns!
in any case, something is better than nothing. cheers to the purchase! let us know how it performs in the turns!
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ah...you're in Australia hence your comment on pricing. i don't agree with the notion that Wavetrac doesn't have a superior product because it does in fact.
in any case, something is better than nothing. cheers to the purchase! let us know how it performs in the turns!
in any case, something is better than nothing. cheers to the purchase! let us know how it performs in the turns!
. My research suggested that the Mfactory diff is just as good, using better stronger material as a matter of fact. Anyway, again, I will have to see how it goes and report back. Did it through DiffLab.com.auCheers brother.
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Any LS diff is better than none but when I looked at a OEM LS diff from Mercedes /AMG supplied and indy fitted was nearly AU$1K . dearer than my Wavetrac supplied and fitting by an Indy transmission shop.
I had Wavetrac fitted to my old LS2 Senator and loved it so that was the first one I looked into after pricing a factory unit.
I could have bought a 2nd hand one but didn't want to trust it with the power these cars put thru it.
I actually could have imported a Quaife from UK slightly cheaper than the Wavetrac but prefer the way the Wavetrac engages.
I had Wavetrac fitted to my old LS2 Senator and loved it so that was the first one I looked into after pricing a factory unit.
I could have bought a 2nd hand one but didn't want to trust it with the power these cars put thru it.
I actually could have imported a Quaife from UK slightly cheaper than the Wavetrac but prefer the way the Wavetrac engages.
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Helicals are probably fine for the street. But for any track use I’d much rather have a clutch type and would gladly pay the extra for it.
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ya...i agree. the only clutch type would be OS Giken...and the cost is about 2k give or take. with any clutch type they require servicing over time. replacement plates can cost anywhere between 250-900 usd.
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for what its worth...a friend of mine who has had an OS Giken on his race car for YEARS said he's only rebuilt it once after about 10 years of use. upon rebuild, the plates were still good and not really in need of a rebuild. come 2020 i'll be looking into an OS Giken or modified Wavetrac.
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you can order custom from OS Giken. its $150 for the service. i've emailed them already. you spec out your peak HP and the intended use. then they'll work with you on the correct configuration. not sure if you can purchase direct from them, but the coordination of custom configuration can be done directly with them.
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Okay, I've been driving for a few days now. First of all, the mechanic said give it about 1,000km before going too crazy on the diff 
Going around corners feels smoother. Before the install it felt like the car was reducing engine power around corners/hindering acceleration. That might just be in my mind. However, when traction control is semi off, the car just drifts so easily/freely. Previously I was never able to do this (maybe poor drift skills). Now the best part, car has better traction on take off. Planting foot on take off, very little traction loss, traction control keeps in very quick, and car catches. Am yet to test without traction control, and with holding revs before take off. Otherwise I'm loving it so far.
Going around corners feels smoother. Before the install it felt like the car was reducing engine power around corners/hindering acceleration. That might just be in my mind. However, when traction control is semi off, the car just drifts so easily/freely. Previously I was never able to do this (maybe poor drift skills). Now the best part, car has better traction on take off. Planting foot on take off, very little traction loss, traction control keeps in very quick, and car catches. Am yet to test without traction control, and with holding revs before take off. Otherwise I'm loving it so far.
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Okay, I've been driving for a few days now. First of all, the mechanic said give it about 1,000km before going too crazy on the diff Going around corners feels smoother. Before the install it felt like the car was reducing engine power around corners/hindering acceleration. That might just be in my mind. However, when traction control is semi off, the car just drifts so easily/freely. Previously I was never able to do this (maybe poor drift skills). Now the best part, car has better traction on take off. Planting foot on take off, very little traction loss, traction control keeps in very quick, and car catches. Am yet to test without traction control, and with holding revs before take off. Otherwise I'm loving it so far.
Going around corners feels smoother. Before the install it felt like the car was reducing engine power around corners/hindering acceleration. That might just be in my mind. However, when traction control is semi off, the car just drifts so easily/freely. Previously I was never able to do this (maybe poor drift skills). Now the best part, car has better traction on take off. Planting foot on take off, very little traction loss, traction control keeps in very quick, and car catches. Am yet to test without traction control, and with holding revs before take off. Otherwise I'm loving it so far.
