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No... most of us are here for a modicum of sanity in enjoying our shared passion in an otherwise f---ed up world with COVID, wars, politics and what not. I don't even have Sven's cooler nor have I commented on your posts on here before, but I simply know that he has come up with a solution that fixes a Mercedes problem, and you keep picking it apart. We got your point the first time - you are not happy with the fitment of Sven's cooler. Feel free to remove it and come up with a better solution yourself. If you do and then someone else starts b!tching at you because some holes don't perfectly line up (and you're not charging $10K for it), I'll be the first to jump to your defence and point out that the positives *FAR* outweigh the negatives, just like the COVID vaccine saves many lives despite the fact that 1 in 10,000 people on average may get a serious side effect. Your comments about the cooler are akin to those of the anti-vaxxers... it's the same flawed logic, just applied to a different argument. Someone came up with a fix for what is technically a Mercedes fault when they built the MCT W204 C63, and you keep focusing on the minute issues with the fix itself instead of being grateful that some guy came up with one in the first place and is making it available to others at a very low cost. You could have sad everything you did in a different way, along the lines of "hey - here's a step-by-step process of how you get Sven's cooler installed and these are the things you may need to adapt to make it work" instead of expecting it to better than a factory part (and I can tell you about those - I have the 44O kit on mine and I have many stories about what it took to have it installed by a shop foreman and a top AMG factory trained mechanic).
2012 P31 C63 Coupe Trackrat, 2019 GLE63S Coupe Beast
Originally Posted by Dr.Speedfellow
Ya editing jave to have, qho to who and straved for input to starved for something to throw opinions at was a real game changer. Lol. You all really take yourselves and this place WAY too seriously.
I dunno if this is a good idea:
Why not make an override button for the fan sitting on the cooler in the wheelwell?
One can be smart to make the circuit over a tempsensor activated at desired temp.
This to gain more cooling from system already there.
From: Land of mountains, cheese, chocolate and watches
12' W204 C63 AMG coupe "T-Rex", 12' W451 Smart Fortwo Pulse (99' W202 C43 AMG + Ultima Can-Am sold)
Just a quick write-up of driving with the enlarged oil-cooler.
Drove today around 200 km of motorway at around 130-140 km/h speed going south of the Alps through the Gotthard road tunnel. Smooth traffic with no jams for once. It certainly won't be like that when the tourist season starts... Temperatures around the 30°c which is unusually high for the season with a peak seen of 32°c. Temperatures of liquids noted at 93°c for the water and 107°c for the oil. Looks good to me.
I'm now waiting for the alpine passes to open (most of them will do so in June), so that I can drive a bit more aggressively and use the revs more fully. But if I recall from last year, the temperatures of both liquids were about the same, with oil perhaps around 110°c but coming down very quickly when lifting off the throttle and gear changes.
A short note: Currently there are waiting times of between 6-8 weeks, as there are massive problems with the availability of aluminium for the cooling cores. Please keep this in mind if you are interested in an oil cooler.
I bought this kit back in April, it arrived in May, and I've gotten it installed this week.
It was packaged well, arriving through customs without issue.
My car's still down for other work, but I'll say my experience with the quality & fitment of the parts and responsiveness of Sven has a been very positive!
Texas heat is brutal, and i easily saw peak oil temps hit around 250 with standard 1st-2nd gear rush hour nonsense. I'm looking forward to seeing the improvement and will report back when I learn more.
Hy! I forget to write my experience ok the radiator coming will the duct etc perfect quality and package.
Very easy put down bumper and P&P radiator only little 1/2mm enlarge the support holes for the screws and tighten all…
The fan of the passenger side are removed easy and no code faults nothing
in town driving no more noisy fan disturb and incredibly the temps are lower than with fan, even if you are stopped.
If you go to spirited road driving is very hard to go up 122celsius and believe me i drive the car like you stole it more than 1 hour twisty road top end rpm in 2nd and 3rd gear with 28celsius outside. And if you go to normal driving the temp goes down in seconds… before the new radiator the temp keep to much time in higher temperatures… i even hit limp on roads and you need to slow down several minutes.
The most important in trackday use i can use the car all day to the limit in 6 series of 20 minutes external temp 18celsius.
I think in high summer temps 30celsius or more you need to make a cooling lap after 5/6 laps not bad for me
Remember before the SRG_63 radiator i cant complete more than 2 complete laps without hit the limp 139c with winter temps outside and even doing other 2 laps slowly in confort 120kmh the oil temp only decrease to 128c when you put throttle again hit limp in one lap again and you need to stop the trackday, its frustrating….
Last minute bump for anyone on the fence on this.
I've got a 2014 Sedan, ROW boxes, but no major mechanical changes to engine yet. (i.e. no headers, etc)
I ordered this kit in April, it arrived in May, and I had it installed since end of July.
The ordering was easy. It was packaged well, and arrived quickly. Sven has always been around to answer my dumb questions. I would have no reservations working with Sven again.
The kit itself was easy to install, I'm told. I gave it to my mechanic though and had to focus on workstuffs. But there were no fitment issues or problems during install that were reported.
The results have been great. I opted to leave the passenger rad fan in place, just for 1:1 comparisons. In a month or so, for round 2, I'll take out the fan just for more data.
But in Houston, TX heat, I was easily hitting 247-249F (119C) when running in rush hour, S+ in 1-2 gear with OE parts. It would take the car ~3-5 minutes of "calm" driving, (or driving in 3rd+ gear at speed) to reduce temps back down to normal 220-ish.
For summer heat of September (90+F / 32C) in same traffic conditions, I can run 1st-2nd gear, S+, aggressive, and temps only hit ~240 max, and cool down is much much quicker at idle/crawling, or cruising.
I'm looking forward to taking out the fan to see any deltas, but this radiator does make a great improvement, especially at recovering from high temps with relatively no airflow.
My concern is like the 44O kit, it'll be gone if i ever need repair parts. Going back to stock is a huge downgrade.
Last minute bump for anyone on the fence on this.
I've got a 2014 Sedan, ROW boxes, but no major mechanical changes to engine yet. (i.e. no headers, etc)
I ordered this kit in April, it arrived in May, and I had it installed since end of July.
The ordering was easy. It was packaged well, and arrived quickly. Sven has always been around to answer my dumb questions. I would have no reservations working with Sven again.
The kit itself was easy to install, I'm told. I gave it to my mechanic though and had to focus on workstuffs. But there were no fitment issues or problems during install that were reported.
The results have been great. I opted to leave the passenger rad fan in place, just for 1:1 comparisons. In a month or so, for round 2, I'll take out the fan just for more data.
But in Houston, TX heat, I was easily hitting 247-249F (119C) when running in rush hour, S+ in 1-2 gear with OE parts. It would take the car ~3-5 minutes of "calm" driving, (or driving in 3rd+ gear at speed) to reduce temps back down to normal 220-ish.
For summer heat of September (90+F / 32C) in same traffic conditions, I can run 1st-2nd gear, S+, aggressive, and temps only hit ~240 max, and cool down is much much quicker at idle/crawling, or cruising.
I'm looking forward to taking out the fan to see any deltas, but this radiator does make a great improvement, especially at recovering from high temps with relatively no airflow.
My concern is like the 44O kit, it'll be gone if i ever need repair parts. Going back to stock is a huge downgrade.
Cheers,
I removed my auxiliary fan from day 1 and had never had a temp over 112C.
I don't track my car but do push it occasionally in S+.
I removed my auxiliary fan from day 1 and had never had a temp over 112C.
I don't track my car but do push it occasionally in S+.
That's great to hear.
How did you cap off the fan electricals to be weather/wind proof?
Are there any end caps used for whatever style plug that is, or just a whole bunch of electrical tape?
(I haven't looked hard enough at the assembly to be knowledgeable here yet)
That's great to hear.
How did you cap off the fan electricals to be weather/wind proof?
Are there any end caps used for whatever style plug that is, or just a whole bunch of electrical tape?
(I haven't looked hard enough at the assembly to be knowledgeable here yet)
Thanks!
I used a silicone cape and race tape that I had lying around, fitted tightly over the plug.
Then placed the wiring up as high as it would go with the cap looking up so any water would just run down.
Just wanted to add my experience and another endorsement of this product!
I installed Sven’s oil cooler after having track day limp modes and seeing 260+ degree temps during canyon drives.
What a night and day difference. This month alone I took the c63 on a 3-day rally and a track day at Big Willow. During both events, oil temps were perfect. The max temperature I saw was about 242 degrees which would drop back to 220~ when not going too hard.
In short, this oil cooler works. 10/10. Best upgrade for your C63 if you enjoy some “spirited” driving.
From: Land of mountains, cheese, chocolate and watches
12' W204 C63 AMG coupe "T-Rex", 12' W451 Smart Fortwo Pulse (99' W202 C43 AMG + Ultima Can-Am sold)
Originally Posted by Mettaworldcool
Just wanted to add my experience and another endorsement of this product!
I installed Sven’s oil cooler after having track day limp modes and seeing 260+ degree temps during canyon drives.
What a night and day difference. This month alone I took the c63 on a 3-day rally and a track day at Big Willow. During both events, oil temps were perfect. The max temperature I saw was about 242 degrees which would drop back to 220~ when not going too hard.
In short, this oil cooler works. 10/10. Best upgrade for your C63 if you enjoy some “spirited” driving.
Just for my orientation, did you remove the auxiliary fan?
I have the enlarged cooler but left the auxiliary fan in situ. Never seen oil temps getting over 118° in hard driving conditions
Finally after getting my oil cooler in July I managed to get time this weekend to fit the oil cooler which just took me over 3 hours Old oil cooler which is small and does a terrible job New oil cooler in and looks amazing simply plug and play Front air duct cover on and only needed 4 M5 1 cm long bolts for this to be secure Picture of the front after installation Really pleased with the result as before after driving in manual for 10-15mins I would get 120+ temps and would need to slow down or stop but now I drove over an hour and did not get above 110. Don’t expect miracles but this is a huge difference and I haven’t took it on a track but intend to go Germany in August with TeamAMGUK Waiting at lights to change the temps go down really quick between 3-5. After driving it hard in manual with temps of 109 then putting it back in S+ and driving down a 1-2 mile road and temps went down to 101 in less than 2 mins. Overall I can finally start to enjoy every moment in my car and not worry about temps. I would recommend this to everyone who owns a W204 C63.
SRG_C63 I can not thank you enough for this product, this has truly given my W204 C63 facelift a new life.
Last edited by TeamAMGUK; Jan 15, 2023 at 12:49 PM.
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