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Old 01-25-2021, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasonoff
Ahhhh my bad
All good!

Per Weistec (follows the same fill procedure as factory, which is impossible with the side plug):



Sanity checked things with them via email as well before installing the pan:



Originally Posted by Jasonoff
Hah I thought it was like this.

In your defense, that is how most automatic transmissions are filled.

The level-setter is a fixed part of the Weistec pan, which is why they switched from the factory single plug design (where you have to knock off the level-setter with something when draining) to a dedicated drain and fill.
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Originally Posted by HLG600
In your defense, that is how most automatic transmissions are filled.

The level-setter is a fixed part of the Weistec pan, which is why they switched from the factory single plug design (where you have to knock off the level-setter with something when draining) to a dedicated drain and fill.
It was a classic RTFM fail on my part. I was thinking those smaller ports were -8 (for an external cooler) but they're much smaller than that.
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ya'll are just here to start fights now aren't ya. fluid is transferred through oiling ports located on the input shaft of the transmission. this oiling port does not exist with the same design as the torque converter 722.9 from what I recall.








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Originally Posted by hachiroku
ya'll are just here to start fights now aren't ya.
What fighting?

This isn't the R230 sub-forum where people go to war over STAR Diagnostic setups or the W211 AMG one where you have some of the most idiotic opinions imaginable on the M156.

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Old 01-26-2021, 11:07 AM
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Old 01-26-2021, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BLKROKT
Let me know when everyone’s done hijacking the thread
LOL, sorry.

To get back on topic then, can you please share the factory part number for the MCT's wet clutch unit?

There was mention of it being posted but the only part numbers I'm seeing are for the Raybestos kit.

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Originally Posted by HLG600
LOL, sorry.

To get back on topic then, can you please share the factory part number for the MCT's wet clutch unit?

There was mention of it being posted but the only part numbers I'm seeing are for the Raybestos kit.
Here you go

Originally Posted by roadtalontsi
2212500301 is the MCT part number. Just replace it while you've got the transmission apart. It's quite cheap for what it is.
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Thank you, @BLKROKT.

Went to cross-reference compatibility and uncovered a few things that were new to me. I previously thought that the MCT introduced in '09 was the same transmission that Mercedes-AMG scaled to the facelift W204 C63, with the only differences being the fluid and an updated filter.

That is not the case. Early MCTs use a different wet clutch unit than the later ones and the transmission itself has a different part number. Curious now what other changes there were.

Anyway, I've digressed enough. Hope your new transmission is doing well and appreciate all the good info provided from this experience.

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Originally Posted by Diabolis
I don't know what your understanding of a sealed unit is, but seeing as the transmission ATF circulates through the MCT clutch pack, it can't be sealed by definition.
Sealed as in welded together. Not bolted, or riveted. If you want to change the clutches or play around inside (pointless unless you're making your own parts), you'll be getting your saw or cut-off wheel out. Do you consider a torque converter a sealed unit as in non-serviceable? Like if you wanted to replace your torque converter lock up clutch? Yes not sealed to getting fluid in or out, or splined to the front pump. In that by definition you're correct it is not "sealed"

Let me correct my statement "MCT WETCLUTCH IS NON-SERVICEABLE"
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Thank you, @BLKROKT.

Went to cross-reference compatibility and uncovered a few things that were new to me. I previously thought that the MCT introduced in '09 was the same transmission that Mercedes-AMG scaled to the facelift W204 C63, with the only differences being the fluid and an updated filter.

That is not the case. Early MCTs use a different wet clutch unit than the later ones and the transmission itself has a different part number. Curious now what other changes there were.

Anyway, I've digressed enough. Hope your new transmission is doing well and appreciate all the good info provided from this experience.
pm me your vin i'll send you the correct pn for your car.
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Originally Posted by roadtalontsi
Sealed as in welded together. Not bolted, or riveted. If you want to change the clutches or play around inside (pointless unless you're making your own parts), you'll be getting your saw or cut-off wheel out. Do you consider a torque converter a sealed unit as in non-serviceable? Like if you wanted to replace your torque converter lock up clutch? Yes not sealed to getting fluid in or out, or splined to the front pump. In that by definition you're correct it is not "sealed"

Let me correct my statement "MCT WETCLUTCH IS NON-SERVICEABLE"
Now we're in complete agreement.
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Originally Posted by Diabolis
Now we're in complete agreement.
Did you two just become best friends?
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Did you two just become best friends?
I don't ever recall having a tiff with roadtalonsi, and even if we had previously disagreed on something, I don't think it was ever disrespectful... or have I forgotten something?
There is one particular d*****bag on the ML forum that that I have repeatedly come to blows with, but no one here that I can think of that has made a lasting impression in that regard.

Sorry for the thread hijack Jim - back to regular programming please.

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Hey Doug, it’s a quote from Step Brothers. Jason was trying to be funny and he failed as usual.



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Hey Doug, it’s a quote from Step Brothers. Jason was trying to be funny and he failed as usual.
Just because I'm a failure doesn't mean the joke was...
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Now we're in complete agreement.
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Car is done. I guess I didn’t realize how jerky the transmission had become. Super smooth now, especially at low speeds. Shifts feel good, maybe not quite as snappy as I remember, we’ll see how it breaks in. The guys at BENZTEC really did a nice job - good listeners, good judgement, great attention to detail especially on the rear diff pump mount, custom hoses and removing all my irritating codes/warnings for airbags etc. Car came back sparkling clean. Will be taking it to Big Willow next weekend for some shakedown laps and report back more then.









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Your engine bay is pornographic. Love the gold tape, definitely want to do something like this. Are your carbon airducts some generic ones from ebay?
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Your engine bay is pornographic. Love the gold tape, definitely want to do something like this. Are your carbon airducts some generic ones from ebay?
Thanks! Think the carbon intake was from JLMotoring or something, they might not be around anymore. These GruppeM copies are all the same though, eBay ones are likely to be just as good or better.
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Did you inquire about safe operating oil temp range?
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This is where a normal human being would have specified the values.
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When I get the answer, I’ll make sure to tell you last.
Soooo? Am I last to know yet?
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Soooo? Am I last to know yet?
Not quite. There are some stragglers still trickling in.
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Soooo? Am I last to know yet?
“Past 120C is bad”

Thats all I got
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When I had slippage in 3rd and 5th gear, they replaced the solenoids that were in bad shape and that did the trick. You may have already beaten that horse, though.
Can you please describe the slippage you mentioned. I am currently experiencing slippage in my transmission (w212) E63 and i dont believe for the life of me that the tranny needs a rebuild considering it only happens during initial application of the throttle. Perhaps you can point me in the right direction with regards to these solenoids.
Thanks in advance


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