Arwin Ver

Hello everyone! I am currently looking into buying a W204 C63 (2011-2015). I have looked around this forum and know about the couple "issues" that are associated with this car. My question is if there is any big differences mechanically with the 2011's and the face-lifted 2012's? I know the newer cars have the MCT transmission and an overall refresh of the exterior and interior. Some of the 2011's also got updated head-bolts, so I would assume they were mechanically about the same. My budget is around 27K, so I am trying to decide between a lower mileage 2011 (60,XXX) and a slightly higher mileage 2012 (87,XXX). Thanks!

catmandoob

Yes, as long as you do a vin check a good chunk of 2011's are good to go minus MCT for tranny. My 2011 has plastic valve covers which is a good indicator of no headbolt issue, but as always check engine number to verify.

Keep in mind FL 2012+ have different oil cooler setup and a few other tweaks but essentially mechanically all fixes were in place engine wise with 2011 MY. Cam Adj , Cams and tappets are still an issue no matter the superseded part # so that doesn't really matter.

I did as you did a year ago, found a decently low mileage 2011 and just couldn't pass it up for 20k.

I will say, tech wise the FL may be worth the extra coin to you, really need to try each out to see. A small, very small ounce of me wishes I went FL but pure driving PFL is so sweet for performance/Dollar.

roadtalontsi

mct is better for the track with quicker shifts, worse in the city, especially in stop and go traffic. It's a lot more jerky. Also most face lift cars have bluetooth streaming. I know my 2010 doesn't but a 2011 might. I just use an adapter for it. Ultimately the torque converter will be more ideal for launching. Race start on the mct is pretty weak. Although converter trans is rated at 700nm and mct is rated at 1000nm. So if you have big plans like a blower, the mct will be a better option unless you want to rebuild or upgrade the other. Considering I'm on the street 99% of the time I'm more than pleased with a converter. Everytime I drive an mct car, especially one with a bad tune I'm glad mine is a converter car. Condition will always trump age and mileage. Get a pre purchase inspection.

Arwin Ver

Thanks for the information!!

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Might as well skip the 2012 for the additional interior updates to the 2013. Cluster/screen colours and the correct stalk placement

Ninjadom

Have you got any comparison pics?

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Here you go.



2008-2012 turn signal stalk at bottom



2013-2014 turn signal stalk in standard position



2008-2012 gold/yellow colour for screens



2013-2014/15 Silver colour for screens

Ninjadom

Oh wow. I did not know that. Mine is a December 2011, so I’ve got the yellow screens.

I’ve also seen later C63 Sedans/Saloons have the heating/air conditioning controls for rear seat passengers. What year cars are those? I don’t have those.

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that's an option, it also includes peasant blockers for the rear window and rear doors

Arwin Ver

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Slow_c63

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I’ve owned both, PFL (late 2011 model, with revised head bolts) and now the FL. The biggest difference is the MCT. And it’s worth every penny.

The “jerkiness” that some owners mention is true. This mainly happens in first gear since most people have a heavy foot driving these cars. They’ll apply too much throttle, then get out of it then get back in it. If you have a steady foot you get used to it. This also goes away, or at least in my case, with LTH and some fine tuning.

For city driving, if you’re the type, leave it in C mode and the car will always stay in second gear. This will eliminate any of the jerkiness down low.